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February 14, 2020
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When will Adobe InDesign would be available on IPad Pro

  • February 14, 2020
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Hi Does anyone know whether Adobe are planning on developing InDesign for the iPad Pro? 

 

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Correct answer Dov Isaacs

You aren't going to see InDesign on iPad anytime in the near future. Stop holding your breath. Quite frankly, I don't understand what is “boring” about a MacBook (or for that matter, any Mac or Windows system). The real issue is working on a platform that is appropriate for the job.

 

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Participant
October 28, 2020

Adobe has just launched Illustrator for the IPad Pro-is it such a stretch for InDesign? If they can figure out how to make a person appear younger or older with just a slider-you think they could translate InDesign to the IPad Pro or any other tablet.

Dov Isaacs
Legend
October 28, 2020

Read the rest of this thread!

 

It is absolutely not a matter of “translating” InDesign to the iPad!!!

 

Unlike Photoshop and Illustrator that primarily deal with one type of file format, raster and vector respectively, InDesign is at the heart of some very complex production workflows in which content of multiple types both from local file systems and the network is placed into InDesign documents. Often, many gigabytes of content (text, vector, raster, and mixtures of same) using many different fonts (and font styles) and ICC color profiles come together into an InDesign document and InDesign-based workflow with output directed to screen, print, or both (either directly or through a bunch of other file formats).

 

It isn't a matter of translating high level language code from Intel-based processors to ARM-based processors, but rather, trying to deal with the exceptionally limited operating system services and user-accessible features that iPadOS provides compared to either Windows or MacOS. Problem areas include font (a four letter word beginning with an ‘f’) support, color support including support for ICC color management profiles and spot colors, and general hierarchical and network file system support.

 

Yes, one could put together an InDesign Junior program that supports a limited subset of InDesign features or a version that is somewhat incompatible with InDesign on Windows and MacOS, but we strongly suspect that our users would be screaming about the actual usefulness of such a product.

 

It has been pointed out that Adobe now has iPadOS versions of both Photoshop and Illustrator, but the feature sets of both including the ability to deal with all graphic arts assets is somewhat limited. It is very easy to demo such iPadOS product versions dealing with simple designs without external dependencies (including myriads of fonts, profiles, plug-ins and scripts), but you would find an iPad an exceptionally-challenging environment for complex designs and real world production workflows where Wacom tablets, keyboards, and large (and multiple) high-resolution, color-calibrated monitors reign supreme (even large screen notebook computers running Windows or MacOS don't really cut it in those environments).

 

May I recommend the following:

 

(1)    Go to https://indesign.uservoice.com/  and vote for such a version of InDesign (with justification and real use cases) or if there isn't already such a request, start one. Adobe's InDesign product mangement and engineering doesn't officially monitor these communities. Here, you are primarily talking to other InDesign users.

 

(2)    Directly lobby Apple to extend iPadOS from it's “walled-garden” environment to one that can host real world production environments that require file system access and support for user-installed fonts (other than by store purchases and special services), profiles, scripting, plug-ins, etc.

 

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
federicos45176481
Participant
August 26, 2020

Ok inDesign will be a dream on iPad for a long time, well.
But update Adobe Comp to open the iD files, at least the one page ones..

Participant
June 18, 2020

I just spoke on chat with a rep that said it was in the works but no date for release. Hope so, because I thought I could do everything from adobe and got an iPad Pro but now I'm stuck!!! Not very pro when a pro can't use it the way they need. 

Dov Isaacs
Legend
June 18, 2020

Here at Adobe we'd be very interested in knowing what “rep” you had a chat with gave you such erroneous information.

 

At no point has Adobe ever promised or even hinted at InDesign on iOS or iPadOS. As I have personally explained earlier in this thread, there are any number of very important reasons why anything resembling a full version of InDesign could not be readily implemented on an iPad.

 

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
Goofy Foot Press
Inspiring
June 19, 2020

I explored this question extensively before deciding to include an iPad Pro as part of my workflow, and I can't remember a single instance of anyone saying that InDesign works competently (or even works at all) on iOS or iPadOS. Quite to the contrary, most sources talked about about the problems iOS and iPadOS have with handling hierarchical file systems which are a key part of InDesign.

Dov Isaacs
Legend
February 14, 2020

Adobe doesn't generally pre-announce products.

 

That having been said, implementing InDesign on an iPad had numerous challenges including:

 

(1)  Poor or almost non-existant support for hierarchical file systems that may be readily accessed and manipulated by users. This is critical for a paradigm where documents depend on linked content either on the local “system” or on an accessible server. It would be very difficult to move a packaged InDesign document to the iPad as the file system currently is and to allow other applications access to the linked contents.

 

(2)  Poor support for user-installed fonts.

 

- Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
Goofy Foot Press
Inspiring
June 8, 2020

Hi Dov. I'm one of the first book authors/publishers in the country to have ditched Quark for what was then a new program called InDesign. People said I was crazy, but I thought InDesign 1.0 looked amazing, and didn't require the stupid dongle that Quark did. That was 9 editions of my book ago. (The book was soon adopted by college instructors, and grew to more than 1,000 pages.)

I'll still be sending the 10th edition of my book to press in InDesign. But I'm thinking of doing the rewriting and the raw editing on my new iPad Pro 12.9" with the magic keyboard. (This might be a horrible idea, but I find the display on the iPad Pro 12.9" such a pleasure to view and my eyes are not as resilient as they were 20+ years ago.) After I'm done, I'll send all 50 chapters to my desktop and port them into InDesign one by one. My question is if you have any suggestions for a word processing program to use on my iPad that will work well with InDesign when I'm ready to do the typesetting in InDesign. I had been set on using Ulysses, but I've been reading reviews by a couple of former Ulysses evangelists who ditched Ulysses for iAWriter after Ulyssess mysteriously lost some of their revisions. 

Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. I also trust you'll tell me if you think I'm crazy and should be doing the rewrite on a MacBook instead of an iPad Pro.  Thanks so very much. --Paul

Randy Hagan
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 8, 2020

I don't necessarily think editing your book on an iPad is a horrible idea. In fact, I think in some ways it's an excellent one.

 

It helps enforce a discipline that everyone recognizes but rarely respects: edit the text, revise the text, polish the text in a dedicated word processing application, then place the completed copy into InDesign. Using a different device — a portable, easy-to-use device like an iPad Pro with a Bluetooth keyboard — is an excellent call.

 

All I'd suggest is you add is a good mesh-tip stylus to your kit to substitute for a computer mouse/trackpad. There are times when you want to move from spot to spot in your copy and using cursor keys is a poor substitute. I recommend the mesh-tip stylus because it doesn't mar the screen like conventional rubber-tip models, eventually spotting up the screen like a wrapped loaf of Wonder Bread until you wipe it all off and start over again.

 

I really like good ol' Microsoft Office on the iPad. Microsoft Word has most all the tools you'd want in a useful word processing application (in-app spell-checker, thesaurus, grammar-checker, etc.), provides a common cloud component for transfer/storage of your copy, as well as synching capabilities with MSWord on your computer desktop and iPad to make version control a heck of a lot easier when you do have to edit/revise copy on your computer.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Randy

BobLevine
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 14, 2020
I doubt it. If you want to see what it would look like try Adobe Comp or find a friend with InDesign on a Windows touch device.

It's very basic. You can throw a layout together but trying to do real work is not a lot of fun.