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Why do some Bengali words appear incorrectly in InDesign?

  • May 8, 2018
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I am pasting Bengali from an excel file into InDesign CC 2018. I have Adobe World-Ready Paragraph Composer turned on. I’ve tried numerous fonts, including the Adobe Bengali font. Here are a few examples. The words in the red box are as they should be, the yellow highlighted words are how they appear in InDesign.

After doing some research, I’ve learned there are a lot of different rules dictating how certain characters should be combined. I’m wondering if some of these rules were left out or misconstrued in Adobe World-Ready Composer. Or is this an issue with the glyph palette? I can copy the incorrect word from InDesign and paste it into Word or Excel and it looks correct. As soon as I paste it into InDesign, it changes. Any suggestions on how to get around this issue would be greatly appreciated!

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      Correct answer David22712314lxik

      I was thrilled to see a possible solution, but sadly this doesn't work for my case. Source of the problem must be the encoding in the google doc from OCR>google doc (Bengali font) then placed or pasted into InDesign, but no one from google has ever replied to my posts.


      Having done the above Indesign Preferences change first. Then in your project go to Paragragh Styles>Style Options>Justification and ensure that this is also set to Adobe World World-Ready Paragraph Composer. 
      This appears to have worked for me, the copy matches the translation that I have pasted from a Word doc.

      Font used at this point is : Bangla Sangam MN 

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      TikiMonger
      TikiMonger
      Participating Frequently
      August 28, 2020

      FYI: I sumbitted a ticket to Adobe in October, 2019: CASE ID E-000065672. Here's their response: "I have logged a BUG and reported this to engineering and i have also mentioned the UserVoice link"

      After showing them the issue, they identified it as a BUG.

      I saw a reply from someone recently about unicode vs ANSI font formats. I don't own any ANSI fonts any longer, and I can't understand the person in the video unfortunately, but going backwards to a very old font version would not be a good option if that's what she is suggesting. 

      I have not tested the latest version of InDesign to see if this is fixed, but will try to do that this week and update this thread. 

      Helal uddin
      Helal uddin
      Participating Frequently
      August 28, 2020

      Commonly Bengali has two types of font engine. 1. Ansi 2. Unicode. 

      I think this font is Unicode based. This is a very common issue if you don't select the paragraph composer as a World ready composer. Just change the composer. 

      TikiMonger
      TikiMonger
      Participating Frequently
      August 28, 2020

      Believe me, everything that could be tested and tried has been done. I don't mean to be rude, but do you think Adobe would classify this as a bug without thoroughly testing and trying the various paragraph composers? That was the very first thing I tried WAY before bringing the issue to Adobe.  

      We did thorough testing with multiple fonts and formats. The text is perfectly ok in Microsoft and Apple applications, even when naming a file or folder in the macOS Finder, but not in any Adobe applications, so the issue is also not with the font. I even installed the middle eastern version of InDesign to test further (I don't remember the exact name of the version, but it encompasses Bengali). Nothing worked. It's a bug. 

      dave c courtemanche
      dave c courtemanche
      Inspiring
      May 10, 2018

      Not sure how related this is, but this may help. We encountered an issue when using the Western version of Indesign to create layouts in Traditional Chinese. The letter spacing of the text was sometimes funky, especially with punctuation. One of my designers was able to find a doc on the below website that allowed him to copy/paste a paragraph of copy that then added Chinese:Traditional to the language preferences in the Character palette. This fixed our issues. Perhaps this is related to that issue.

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      amaarora
      amaarora
      Inspiring
      May 9, 2018

      Hi,

      Instead of pasting text from Excel to InDesign, what happens when you File->Place the excel file in InDesign?

      -Aman

      SB67624302
      SB67624302Author
      Participating Frequently
      May 9, 2018

      Hi Aman,

      I tried placing it into InDesign. It changes as soon as it's placed. I can then copy the incorrect word and paste it back into Excel and it is correct again. It only happens on certain combinations, but since I don't know the Bengali language it's hard for me to understand exactly what's happening.

      Thanks for the help,

      Sandy

      Marvest
      Marvest
      Inspiring
      May 12, 2018

      Yes, I do have Bengali (India) language selected. Because I don't know Bengali I can't tell if what you got is the same as what is in the red boxes on my original post, but in a different font. Looks different to me, but it was in Vrinda font.


      I cannot read Bengali myself. Obviously the best way would be to show it to a native Bengali speaker and they can tell you if it's right or not. I'm working on a layout of a book in Hindi. Using Hindi language, Adobe World-Ready Paragraph Composer and an appropriate font produces good results according to my translator in India. 

      Rajashree Bhattacharya
      Rajashree Bhattacharya
      Legend
      May 9, 2018

      Hi Sandy,

      I have asked the concerned team to follow up on this.

      Regards

      Rajashree

      SB67624302
      SB67624302Author
      Participating Frequently
      May 9, 2018

      Hi Rajashree,

      Thanks. I appreciate it.

      Sandy

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