Why so greeking?

[wideEyedPupil]

So i checked the preferences and I can't find a threshold text size on screen to set greeking below (a Quark flashback maybe). The only thinkg relating to Greeking is the Hand Tool preference.

Strangely the same text resized for a banner (860 x 2000 mm) file is greeking at a much larger on-screen font size than it is in the file I pulled it from. But this seems to be arbitrary, not thresholds to set in prefs.

<——— original file A4 (210x297mm) page, quite small on screen.

<——— same image and text rescaled to go from A4 to 860x2000 mm banner. Significant thing is it is much larger on the screen (as you can see from screenshots) yet is greeking the bottom text. The top text on banner file also greeks if I zoom out a small amount.

I'd actually like to compose this onscreen with out going into AI, exporting to PDF or printing the thing every time I change something!

[wideEyedPupil]

Somebody who has permission to create new tags please make a tag in InDesign forum for Greeking and apply it 🙂

[Zaid Al Hilali]

Did you change Greek setting in Preferences? Do you want to give it a try.

[rob day]

Look at Preferences Display Performance>Greek Text Below. The greeking isn't applied literally at the threshold—the zoom level is considered. And you can set different greeking thresholds for the different view settings.

[wideEyedPupil]

Yes it was set to 7pt and greeking text that was much larger than that at the onscreen resolution. I tried it down to 3pt and still greeking at >10pt, but at least i can see all the type at size to fit now. Thanks.

For anybody who came here later the documentation is here: View the workspace in InDesign

[BobLevine]

First thing I do is set that zero. That 7pt is left over from 1999.

[Frans v.d. Geest]

Setting it to zero, but you need to do this for Normal and again for High quality display, so twice 😉

[rob day]

I tried it down to 3pt and still greeking at >10pt, but at least i can see all the type at size to fit now.

It's not the text's set point size, but the displayed size of the text that determines the threshold. As Bob mentions you can turn it off by choosing 0.

I think this shows how it works. Here I've set greeking to 72pt and at a 450% zoom 12pt text is still greeking, but at 475% it doesn't because the display of the text appears as something over 72.

On my non retina iMac there's not enough resolution to make displayed type of any size legible when it drops below the 7pt threshold, so i leave mine at 7pt

[Jeff Witchel, ACI]

If you follow Bob's advice above and set your Display Performance Preference to 0 for "Greek Type Below," the type will render no matter how far you Zoom out. At some point you will not be able to read the type, but it won't be Greek.

[jane-e]

wideEyedPupil wrote:

So i checked the preferences and I can't find a threshold text size on screen to set greeking below (a Quark flashback maybe). The only think relating to Greeking is the Hand Tool preference.

Speaking of QuarkXPress — many years ago I asked a Quark engineer if the Preference for greeking could be set to 0, and he said, yes, I think we can do that. And in the next version, greeking was set to zero by default. I haven't thought to ask the InDesign team until this second.

(I'm pretty sure greeking is lower case, for those who care about these things.)

[wideEyedPupil]

yeah i'm putting the capitalisation down to autocorrect (Lol) greeking.

[wideEyedPupil]

Hand Tool is probably lower case too. Was capitalised for emphasis not nation statehood 😉