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Inspiring
May 31, 2021
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Find/Change Curly Quotes to Primes

  • May 31, 2021
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 I am trying to change curly quotes to primes via Find/Change as shown but I keep receiving the "Cannot find match" warning. Any ideas?

 

 

 

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Correct answer Barb Binder

Hi @Studio Z Design:

 

You can update the curly quotes to primes in the single table with a simple Text Find/Change.

 

If the close curly quote appears elsewhere in your file, I'd recommend using GREP so that you can limit the change to only curly quotes that appear after numbers.

 

~Barb 

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Community Expert
June 1, 2021

Hi Studio Z Design,

the change pattern is:

\x{0022}

From your screenshot I see that it could have been. x{0022}; you forgot to type the backslash at the start of the expression.

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

Community Expert
May 31, 2021

Hi Studio Z Design,

did you download and check the document where I tested GREP Find/Change that I linked to?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gzewcx41d2ylp4/Curly%20Quotes%20to%20Primes-RESULT-GREP-FindChange.indd?dl=1

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

Inspiring
May 31, 2021

Yes I did but this is what happens when I try it. I obviously need to read about GREP to learn how what you did works. Thank you very much. I am sure I will eventually get it right.

Community Expert
May 31, 2021

Hi Studio Z Design,

well GREP Find/Change is working with your document.

I did not test with GLYPH Find/Change.

 

Because I'm on Windows 10 I could not test with your used PostScript Type 1 fonts that are from Mac OS X.

Here a new GREP find pattern that will only find the quotes if they come after a digit using a Positive Look Behind:

 

(?<=\d)\x{201D}

 

 Change pattern remains:

 

\x{0022}

 

Tried to change the formatting to [Book Oblique] as well.

And this also worked even if I had no access to that font style.

Found and changed 19 instances.

 

Still important, because this is a document setting:

While you do Find/Change unmark the following option in the InDesign Preferences:

Preferences > Type > Type Options

[  ] Use Typographer's Quotes

 

Download the changed document from my Dropbox account:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gzewcx41d2ylp4/Curly%20Quotes%20to%20Primes-RESULT-GREP-FindChange.indd?dl=1

 

 

NOTE: With that saved result document I checked the option Use Typographer's Quotes again.

So uncheck it if you plan to find/replace anything to Unicode 0022.

 

Some screenshots from my German InDesign 2021 version 16.2.1.102 on Windows 10:

 

[1] Disable "Use Typographer's Quotes" in the preferences of this document:

 

 

[2] Set the GREP Find/Change properties ( and not the GLYPH Find/Change ones )

 

After pressing Change All:

After pressing OK to the result message:

 

Regards,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

 

// EDITED

sunny.sunny
Inspiring
May 31, 2021

0022 (") is Quotation Mark, Double Prime (″) (for inches) is 2033.

As I wrote before, you won't find this glyph in your font.

Barb Binder
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Barb BinderCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
May 31, 2021

Hi @Studio Z Design:

 

You can update the curly quotes to primes in the single table with a simple Text Find/Change.

 

If the close curly quote appears elsewhere in your file, I'd recommend using GREP so that you can limit the change to only curly quotes that appear after numbers.

 

~Barb 

~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
Community Expert
May 31, 2021

Hi Studio Z Design,

can you post a sample document?

Put it on Dropbox or a similar service and share the download link.

 

You may try this with GREP Find/Change:

 

GREP Find pattern:

\x{201D}

 

GREP Change pattern:

\x{0022}

 

Important:

While you do Find/Change unmark the following option in the InDesign Preferences:

Preferences > Type > Type Options

[  ] Use Typographer's Quotes

 

Also check what's selected if you restrict your search to Story as shown in your screenshot.

 

Thanks,
Uwe Laubender

( ACP )

Inspiring
May 31, 2021

Here's a link to the collected file. I did not have any luck with your suggestions. I am sure I am missing something.

Thanks in advance.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17xHx4NF9mvKRoKNRdpSHMUc00yZmh51D/view?usp=sharing

sunny.sunny
Inspiring
May 31, 2021

Looks like your font doesn't have double prime symbol.

Inspiring
May 31, 2021

It does. I am using ITC Franklin Gothic Book for the curly quotes and ITC Franklin Gothic Book Italic for the italic double prime.