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March 5, 2019
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Moving from PageMaker to InDesign (Was "Editor")

  • March 5, 2019
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I have been editing various magazines in Sweden for more than 50 years. The last 15 years I have produced a 24 page club magazine, using PageMaker. Suddenly you couldn't convert PMD files to PDFs for the printers, so I had to switch to InDesign. I really regret that, because I have never worked with a more complicated program and I still can't make decent layouts using it. So now I'm giving it up altogether before I get a heart attack. One thing that really makes me mad is the lack of easy-to-understand hands-on instructions, like "do this if you want this result" etc. I'm not the least interested in all the twists you catalogue, I just want to go on making a decent magazine with headings, photos and regular text parts. Nothing fancy at all. But such a publication seems impossible to create with InDesign, which apparently was created by computer freaks who never worked with other printed matter than glossy brochures that nobody reads. Shame on you!  Is there anyone else out there who feels like I do?       

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    jane-e
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    March 7, 2019

    alfa75559246  wrote

    But such a publication seems impossible to create with InDesign, which apparently was created by computer freaks who never worked with other printed matter than glossy brochures that nobody reads. Shame on you! 

    Hi Alfa,

    To address this thought, InDesign was created by the engineers at Aldus because the code in PageMaker was too old to be able to bring it up to the then-current standards, and that was two decades ago. They needed to start from the ground up with new code. Adobe bought Aldus to get InDesign (code-named K2.) That's why many of the shortcuts continue to work in InDesign.

    I suspect one day or less of training would convert you from "Owww!" to "Wow!" as it did for so many of us when we switched over. And we still remember PageMaker here in the InDesign forum, so we can help. There is no way now that I could ever go back.

    Wishing you well,

    Jane

    Dave Creamer of IDEAS
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    March 7, 2019

    Believe it or not, there is still a PageMaker forum...

    Adobe PageMaker

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    BobLevine
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    March 7, 2019

    Yup…and about the only people posting there do so to complain that they can’t install it on Windows 10.

    Geоrge
    Legend
    March 7, 2019

    Russian proverb says — глаза боятся, руки делают.

    Dear @alfa75559246 , I'm fear to disappoint you, but you're totally wrong.

    When I slip down from PageMaker to InDesign in 2005 year every new learning steps make me fly that I never be used PageMaker again.

    https://www.amazon.com/Real-World-Adobe-InDesign-CC/dp/0321930711 - try this book, if you're don't like videos from Lynda. This book for CS2 version was really helpful for me years ago.

    Remember, never say you can't do something in InDesign, it's always just a question of finding the right workaround to get the job done. © David Blatner
    barbara_a7746676
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    March 7, 2019

    PageMaker was the first program I used on a computer. When InDesign came out, I transitioned to InDesign. There is a learning curve because InDesign is more powerful than PageMaker. Taking an introductory one or two day class would no doubt go a long way in that regard. In the end I think you'll be very pleased with InDesign.

    Jongware
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    March 7, 2019

    Barbara, that is my gut feeling as well: what alfa75559246 may need is a hands on introduction to InDesign, not a video or a link to the online help -- useful as they are. Sometimes you have be able to look over one's shoulder to get an idea of what concepts they are struggling with.

    BobLevine
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    March 7, 2019

    I think it’s important to remember that when most of us moved from PM to ID, it was a pretty smooth transition. Way more features today and PM? Well, it’s 20 years old.

    Barb Binder
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    March 6, 2019

    Hi Alfa:

    Have you watched any of the these free tutorials?
    InDesign tutorials | Learn how to use InDesign CC

    Purchased a book to work through on your own or with an instructor?

    Adobe InDesign CC Classroom in a Book (2019 Release)

    Watched videos on LinkedIn Learning?

    InDesign CC 2019 Essential Training

    When I transitioned to InDesign from PageMaker in 1999, I was grateful for how much it worked like PageMaker. In 2019, I'm grateful for all the things I can do quickly in InDesign that PageMaker never supported. Training is the key to the transition. Set aside some time to learn the program, and you may never look back.

    ~Barb

    ~Barb at Rocky Mountain Training
    Legend
    March 6, 2019

    I've used PageMaker, Quark and InDesign to do page layout. They all do pretty much the same thing in very similar ways. Can you name something that's easy to do in PageMaker that you can't figure out in InDesign?

    John Mensinger
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    March 5, 2019

    While I'd agree with Bob's post in essence, there's nothing forcing you to use any particular InDesign feature that does something you don't need.

    I still can't make decent layouts using it.

    Why not? What happens when you try?

    Nothing fancy at all.

    I make layouts in InDesign all day every day for technical documents that I'm sure are decidedly less "fancy" than your magazine, and the application doesn't force anything needlessly complex upon my workflow. Your post has made me so curious about the nature of your difficulties, that I really hope you post again with details of something more specific in InDesign that has posed a challenge to your efforts to construct basic layouts. I truly can't imagine what the obstacles might be.

    BobLevine
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    March 5, 2019

    InDesign is a powerful, professional level application with a steep learning curve. If you’re not willing to put in the time to learn it, it’s not for you.

    Participant
    February 23, 2021

    well, when you speak of "powerful", i believe you may be referring, at least in part, to all of the "new" features it has that can very easily be done in illustrator or photoshop -- integration is key. the adobe learning curve is not that steep, as many of the key shortcuts are crossplatform (software)...i supspect, much like myself, s/he is just lazy. as a side note for the OP, don't feel intimidated by it either, as i doubt anyone here, who may consider themselves 'expert level', including myself, knows over 30% of what these mindblowing applications can accomplish~!