P: (French/German) Process V6 creates wider scroll bars....

[ChristianD80]

What's the purpose of making the scrollbar wider when switching process version from V5 to V6 ??

[AxelMatt]

I've checked and seen the same effect on my machine. In version 5 I don't even see a scroll bar at all.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I cannot reproduce on Mac or Windows.

How are you changing PV Versions from 5 to 6?

Do you have Solo Mode engaged? 
Is Lightroom maximized or windowed?

[ChristianD80]

Lightroom is maximized, full HD screen resolution. Windows 10.

I change it either by clicking on the lightbolt in the develop module or by switching process version in the lightroom menu.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I still cannot reproduce on Full Screen on HD or 4K

[John R Ellis]

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I see issues with the Develop right-column scrollbar when running LR 12.4 / Windows 11 / Window > Screen Mode > Normal  / Windows Display Scaling 100% in French but not English. It's not visible at all with PV 5 but very thin with PV 6:

 

For comparison, here's what it looks like in English:

 

Over the years, there have been issues with the widths of panels and text when LR is running in non-English languages.  This looks like another one.

Lightroom Classic version: 12.4 [ 202306052221-b70c0975 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en

Operating system: Windows 10 - Business Edition

Version: 10.0.22621

Application architecture: x64

System architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 12

Processor speed: 3.2GHz

SqLite Version: 3.36.0

CPU Utilisation: 2.0%

Built-in memory: 16378.6 MB

Dedicated GPU memory used by Lightroom: 0.0MB / 0.0MB (0%)

Real memory available to Lightroom: 16378.6 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 1378.8 MB (8.4%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 1562.8 MB

GDI objects count: 747

USER objects count: 2276

Process handles count: 1991

Memory cache size: 7.6MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 15.4 [ 1508 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 513MB / 8189MB (6%)

Camera Raw real memory: 594MB / 16378MB (3%)

System DPI setting: 96 DPI

Desktop composition enabled: Yes

Standard Preview Size: 2560 pixels

Displays: 1) 2560x1440

Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: Yes, Keyboard: No

Graphics Processor Info: 

Init State: GPU Unsupported

User Preference: Auto

[Ian Lyons]

It's another French language UI bug and is easily reproduced on my Macs when I switch to French in preferences. That being said, on my systems it's the black area to the right of the scroll-bar that changes width.

[ChristianD80]

Exactly the same for me. But it's not a problem at all, I prefer the wider bar, it's much easier to manipulate than the very thin one

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Licence: Creative Cloud
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Types d'entrée: Tactile multipoint : Non, Tactile intégré : Non, Plume intégrée : Non, Tactile externe : Non, Plume externe : Non, Clavier : Non

Informations relatives au processeur graphique : 
DirectX: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 (31.0.15.3598)
État initial: GPU pour le traitement d'image pris en charge par défaut avec la prise en charge de l'exportation personnalisée
Préférence utilisateur: Désactivé

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2) Flickr
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[Ian Lyons]

If you want to see how screwed up the UI is when handling languages other than English, then simply cycle through each of the languages in the General Preferences (remember to relaunch LrC after each change).  I've attached a screenshot for LrC Preferences (English, Dutch, and French).

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

It looks like this isn't new to 12.4. It is probably just more noticeable with the visibility of PV 6. The team has logged a bug.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Greetings all,

Updates for the Adobe Photography Products have been released.  The August 2023 updates contain a fix for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

Thank you for your patience.

[John R Ellis]

The problem no longer occurs in my Windows LR 12.5 in French.