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andrewl21008093
Participating Frequently
October 29, 2021

P: Select Sky causes export to be larger than expected

  • October 29, 2021
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I've been asked to report this as a bug in Lightroom Classic v11

When a Select Sky mask is added, and 'All Metadata' is selected for export, an error message is generated, screenshot attached. This forces the user to choose a larger file size that may be desired in the circumstances. If a different Metadata setting is chosen, the problem does not occur.

It seems that Select Sky and All Metadata have a compatability issue.

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andrewl21008093
Participating Frequently
December 16, 2021

Fixed for me too for several tested file sizes down to about 200k, which is fine - thanks!

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
December 16, 2021

Fixed in 11.1

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
December 16, 2021

Looks like it's indeed fixed.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
December 16, 2021

This should have been fixed in the 11.1 update released earlier this week. Can anyone here confirm that you are no longer seeing the issue?

Thanks!

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
johnrellis
Brainiac
November 27, 2021

I'm sure this isn't a driver-specific bug, since it can be reproduced on many different computers (e.g. on my Macbook Pro with a Radeon Pro Vega GPU).  

Known Participant
November 27, 2021
Hi,

thanks.
yes it could also be that. The plug-in to update my intel drivers clearly
recommends that I don't overwrite the customized microsoft drivers...as you
know with microsoft schit happens too often. But anyway I have the same
issue on my lenovo workstation with 4gb nvidia graphic card where davinci
studio 17 has no problem on running. I do really think it is a bug. I stop
using all metadata and render as should.
GoldingD
Brainiac
November 27, 2021

So the Integrated Video Control drive version or perhaps bug with rigs with only an integrated video control, hence rolled into the large discussion. This group of users has a few things in common

 

  • Integrated video controller, no desecrate GPU
  • Integrated Video controller driver out of date
  • They rely on in computer software provided by laptop manufacturer to keep drivers up to date
  • They refuse to go to chip provider (Intel) for driver updates
  • They think going outside the laptop manufacturer for driver updates will damage the computer or void the warranty.
  • The issue is on a broad range of Intel integrated video control.
    • Of those members that have stated the brand of computer or motherboard, three or four stated ACER,two stated ASUS. One ACER owner listed ACER model, looking at ACER website, the available drivers were from 2016. Apparently ACER is not keeping regular updates for old models.  Both members with ASUS found the installed driver update utility from ASUS was out of date, upon updating, they were able to acquire new drivers, one fixed entirely, other mostly.
  • Using Select Sky fouls things up.

 

Note that the Adobe Techs have acknowledged this as a possible Bug, and are investigating.

 

 

Known Participant
November 26, 2021

Ich exportiere für meine webpage mit: 2500pix lange seite, 72dpi, max 500mb

seit die neue update wenn ich eine AI maske nutze die renderind ist nicht mehr sauber, und kommt an viele stellen pixelate. Wenn ich die maske entferne seigt diese probleme nicht. Wenn ich mit die qualität um 80 mache dann diese probleme ist weg aber natürlich den photo ist grosser um die 750mb.

Ich habe auf diverse rechner propiert der ergebniss ist das gleiche.

 

hat jemanden das selber problem. gibt es losungen davon?

johnrellis
Brainiac
November 26, 2021

Google translation: "Export images for web to AI masks. Rendering problems. I export for my webpage with: 2500pix long side, 72dpi, max 500mb. since the new update when I use an AI mask the renderind is no longer clean, and pixelate occurs in many places. If I remove the mask these problems do not arise. If I do with the quality around 80 then these problems are gone but of course the photo is bigger around 750mb. I have prophesied on various computers the result is the same. someone has the problem themselves. are there any solutions?"

 

I don't recall seeing other posts about this issue. To troubleshoot this, select one of the photos and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Then upload the photo and its .xmp sidecar to Google Drive, Dropbox, or similar and paste the sharing link here. That will let us reproduce the problem, narrow down the cause, and perhaps provide a solution or workaround.

Known Participant
November 27, 2021

thanks.

I posted down an asnwer about that.

johnrellis
Brainiac
November 8, 2021

"The explanation might be that 'All Metadata' includes Camera Raw settings (i.e. develop settings) and the new masks are part of that."

 

Curiously, the actual pixel coordinates of the Sky and Subject masks aren't included in the exported XMP. For example, here's the exported XMP for a Sky mask applied to a JPEG, a total of 656 bytes:

 

      <crs:CorrectionMasks>
       <rdf:Seq>
        <rdf:li
         crs:What="Mask/Image"
         crs:MaskActive="true"
         crs:MaskName="Sky 1"
         crs:MaskBlendMode="0"
         crs:MaskInverted="false"
         crs:MaskSyncID="69EF91786E24481ABCA70E9F32D5B8E1"
         crs:MaskValue="1"
         crs:MaskVersion="1"
         crs:MaskSubType="2"
         crs:ReferencePoint="0.772987 0.141767"
         crs:InputDigest="C426B957BC20C4C04E9E8E16B843AD6A"
         crs:MaskDigest="19A23926BBFCB69048177E2444F3CAC9"
         crs:WholeImageArea="0/1,0/1,1920/1,2880/1"
         crs:Origin="0,0"/>
       </rdf:Seq>
      </crs:CorrectionMasks>

 

So the bug must be caused by something different than the size of the exported XMP.

Bob Somrak
Brainiac
November 8, 2021

I see ZERO reasons to have an option to export Camera Raw Info (Develop Settings) for a derivative file  (JPG, Tiff, PNG) with the edits baked in.  Has anyone ever looked at this data and found it useful. 

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB