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Participating Frequently
November 14, 2021
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After upgrade I am unable to locate Snapshots or History

  • November 14, 2021
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LR Classic upgrade v10 to v11 - the upgrade seems not to have brought forward the photo SnapShots or History from the previous version and seems to have overwritten the catalog back up settings - both significant weaknesses. These have caused significant disruption to my processing and this is a very poor way to upgrade the product. 

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Todd Shaner
Legend
November 24, 2021

"I don't believe that I upgraded the wrong catalogue. I vaguely recall editing the name of the v11.lrcat to exclude the v10 bit."

 

Use Finder to compare the size of the v10.lrcat file to the v11.lrcat file. If you haven't done a significant amount of new editing they should both be about the same size.

Participating Frequently
November 27, 2021

OK thanks guys (all of you). It seems clear that something went wrong in the upgrade process. 

 

...2-2.lrcat created 22 Feb 2020 & modified 25 Oct 2020 is 616.1b

...2-2-v10.lrcat created 25 Oct 2020 & last modified 27 Oct 2021 is 1.17gb

... 2-2-v11.lrcat created 27 Oct 2021 and last modified 14 Nov 2021 is 452.3mb (smaller than 2-2 and a lot smaller than 2-2-vb10)

 

If 2-2 was upgraded rather than v10 as intended then I would expect the photos included in v10 between 25 Oct 2020 and 27 Oct 2021 to be missing - which they are not. 

 

Perhaps this is more than just a question of which catalogue was upgraded and more to do with a failed or corrupt upgrade. I note that one of your links above notes that there are some instances of problems with the upgrade process. 

I wonder if my best approach now is to rename all the current v11 catalogue files and run the upgrade again on the v10 catalogue and be more wary of what the result is. I would then have to reimport and process all the photos since the first upgrade attempt. 

Thoughts? 

I might also consider starting a completely new catalogue and starting from a clean position for all new photos, as I am down to 300gb left on that 2tb external SSD and I run the catalogue on the external SSD which also holds the photos. 

Community Expert
November 27, 2021

If you are going to have another go at upgrading an earlier version catalog to v11, obviously that will be missing your images taken, imported and worked on subsequently.

 

One way around this would be to write XMP out to file from your current v11 Catalog and then re-import those image files into this other v11 Catalog. But this would be to throw away all those images' virtual organisation (such as Collection membership), any virtual copies, and their prior edit History right back to their import.

 

So instead, highlight those images in the current v11 Catalog and do "Export as Catalog" - choosing selected images only, and not to include copies of the originals in what is being saved, to a temporary location.

 

After you have converted your older catalog under a new different v11 name, you can then do "Import from Catalog" to merge in all these recent photos - from that temporary catalog. This is better than importing images from disk with XMP metadata, because you don't only bring in latest edit metadata state of one master copy, you bring all that other good stuff too - IOW, you will have lost nothing.  

dj_paige
Legend
November 23, 2021

the upgrade seems not to have brought forward the photo SnapShots or History from the previous version

 

So you are saying that History is empty?

 

This almost sounds like you accidentally imported some photos twice a long time ago, and only one such photo has edits and snapshots. Have you confirmed that there is no history anywhere in the upgraded catalog? Create a smart collection for photos that have edits, and see if this smart collection is empty.

Participating Frequently
November 23, 2021

OK - as regards History, I don't understand how the History can not even show an import date. I can't find any photos in the catalog (prior to the upgrade) with a History entry for import, let alone any processing steps. Photos imported and processed since the upgrade date show import and processing dates in the History. A minority of photos show some snapshots, but most snapshots which I know to exist on photos prior to the upgrade date are missing. Where there are some snapshots the History is still blank, not just for the import but also for the processing steps which would have given rise to the snapshots. See attached. 

GoldingD
Legend
November 23, 2021

 

Well interesting that the drag and drop boxes work differently. 

Here is a selection which covers what you have asked. 

The lrcat which I wanted to upgrade was the v10 from the last upgrade and that is what I believe I did in the process of creating the v11 version. 

 

 

 

 


It looks very very much like when LrC v11 upgraded your  most current catalog, that it upgraded an older one.

 

Looking at the catalogs now listed

 

AJW Photos-2-2.lrcat

AJW Photos-2-2-V10.lrcat

AJW Photos-2-2-V11.lrcat

 

Naturally the second one would have been the most recent, But then you should have wound up having

 

AJW Photos-2-2-V10-V11.lrcat

 

LrC v11 did not upgrade the correct catalog. Looks like AJW Photos-2-2.lrcat was upgraded, not AJW Photos-2-2-V10.lrcat

 

 

What happens if 

A. Rename the v11 one to prevent a conflict in the following

B. Double click on

 

AJW Photos-2-2-V10.lrcat

 

 

how to rename, included in: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/catalog-faq-lightroom.html

 

oh, and an example of the name of the new catalog when upgrading from v10 to v11 is included in:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/whats-new-in-lightroom-classic-11-0/

I list that as to support statements made.

 

 

 

 

 

GoldingD
Legend
November 14, 2021

Verify that the correct catalog was upgraded. Sometimes LrC gets that wrong. If so, their may be an issue with your preference file.

 

Participating Frequently
November 23, 2021

Pretty sure that I upgraded from the latest version which was the number immediately prior - xxx-v10.lrcat

GoldingD
Legend
November 23, 2021

And have you used Finder to verify that? Do you remember where your catalog was stored? What is in that folder?

Participating Frequently
November 14, 2021

I needed to select an OS so now successfully posted.