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AI masks needs to be updated all the time

Community Beginner ,
Feb 18, 2023 Feb 18, 2023

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Everytime I edit new pictures with AI masks, previous pictures with AI mask needs to be update all the time.

Even with update AI settings. after a while. It needs to be updated again.

 

LR Classic Version 12.2

Windows 10 22H2

 

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Community Expert , Feb 21, 2023 Feb 21, 2023
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It is. But I've noticed it is read-only file. Is it supposed to be that?


By @PhakornS


No, that doesn't make sense, because that means Lightroom can't save any changes in it (which would explain what you see). Maybe you should delete it completely, so Lightroom can rebuild it when you update all masks one more time.

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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Can you please share some more details on your gear ... CPU, GPU and VRAM, RAM ...

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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Intel 8700K

Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB

16GB of  DDR4 Memory

LR CC Library is stored on USB 3.0 external SSD

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LEGEND ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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What is the GPU driver version?

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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Studio Driver 528.24

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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Please try if it helps to reset the preferences, as this is known to help with various issues:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

 

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 19, 2023 Feb 19, 2023

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Unfortunately this does not fix the problem.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 04, 2023 Apr 04, 2023

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doesnt fix the problem

 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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AI masks are stored separately from the catalog in 'catalogname.lrcat-data'. Are you sure this is kept with your catalog at all times? If it's removed, then you'll have to update all masks.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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It is. But I've noticed it is read-only file. Is it supposed to be that?

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Community Expert ,
Feb 21, 2023 Feb 21, 2023

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It is. But I've noticed it is read-only file. Is it supposed to be that?


By @PhakornS


No, that doesn't make sense, because that means Lightroom can't save any changes in it (which would explain what you see). Maybe you should delete it completely, so Lightroom can rebuild it when you update all masks one more time.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Expert ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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Is Auto Sync turned on?


Sean McCormack. Author. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 20, 2023 Feb 20, 2023

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Both on or make no difference. Still needs to update AI masks after edit new pictures.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 22, 2023 Feb 22, 2023

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Same in Lr Classic 12.1. Seems like a bug to me.

3080, ryzen 9 5950x, 64 ram, plenty of available ssd space for cache, etc.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 23, 2023 Feb 23, 2023

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Same in Lr Classic 12.1. Seems like a bug to me.

3080, ryzen 9 5950x, 64 ram, plenty of available ssd space for cache, etc.


By @Frank_B

 

No, it's something on your machine that stops Lightroom from saving the masks. If it were a bug, then everybody would complain. Two people (out of millions) having the same problem is not an indication for a bug.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 23, 2023 Feb 23, 2023

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This seems to did the trick. Thank you so much.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 04, 2023 Apr 04, 2023

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What did you do to fix your problem?  i have had this issue for months.

 

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 23, 2023 Feb 23, 2023

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Fair enough. Removing the mentioned file did the trick. Maybe it grew to big or something.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 24, 2023 Feb 24, 2023

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Fair enough. Removing the mentioned file did the trick. Maybe it grew to big or something.


By @Frank_B


No, I don't think that it grew too big. If that was the case, then deleting it and then updating all mask would recreate the problem, because recreating all masks should create a new file that is just as big as the old one. It's more likely that something happened that made it read-only. Like the OP noticed.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 24, 2023 Feb 24, 2023

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I think my laptop messed up the file. Because for some reason that laptop has a tendency to corrupt the library. I don't use LR on that laptop anymore though.

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New Here ,
Mar 10, 2023 Mar 10, 2023

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Ok, I think I figured it out, as least as it relates to my case (MacOS)

My lightroom files were all stored in iCloud Drive, thus they were uploaded and downloaded at their own grace. 

I realized that the AI masks had to be updated every time I close and reopen Lightroom. 

I moved all the Lightroom files onto my local disk and then opened LRC from there and recomputed some masks. 

Then I closed and reopened the lightroom, and problem solved, the Masks would remain. 

 

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Community Expert ,
Mar 10, 2023 Mar 10, 2023

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A lot of the cloud services act as network drives, which Lightroom doesn't like. At least we have a solution that can be used for others based on this information. 


Sean McCormack. Author. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.

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Apr 04, 2023 Apr 04, 2023

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My files are stored on my actual mac hard drive and not cloud.  Any suggestions for me?  I am havin gthis same issue.  Have had them for months.

 

 

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Apr 05, 2023 Apr 05, 2023

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So not in Dropbox, OneDrive, iCloud, pCloud, or any other service that has a folder available on the machine to drag to? Just a regular folder on the drive. 

 

What I'd try is renaming the lrcat-data file to make it look like it's deleted, then I'd restart Lightroom. It will have to regenerate the masks again, but hopefully just the once. 


Sean McCormack. Author. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.

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i have this same frustraiting problem, have you figured out the solution for having to always click update ai settings??

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