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Community Beginner ,
Apr 16, 2021 Apr 16, 2021

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Crop: "Constrain to image" does not work.  It allows a crop of any aspect ration when checked.  See atatched screen shot.  Lightroom Classic 10.2.

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LEGEND , Apr 16, 2021 Apr 16, 2021
[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.] The Constrain To Image option doesn't lock the aspect ratio.  For that, click the padlock icon: The Constrain To Image option is the same checkbox as that labeled Constrain Crop in the Transform panel, which can create white bars on the sides of images: The Constrain Crop / Constrain To Image option limits the crop to be wholly within the image, not including any of the white/...

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Apr 16, 2021 Apr 16, 2021

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[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

The Constrain To Image option doesn't lock the aspect ratio.  For that, click the padlock icon:

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The Constrain To Image option is the same checkbox as that labeled Constrain Crop in the Transform panel, which can create white bars on the sides of images:

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The Constrain Crop / Constrain To Image option limits the crop to be wholly within the image, not including any of the white/grey bars:

johnrellis_3-1618602316573.png

 

 

 

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 16, 2021 Apr 16, 2021

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That's confusing...  When checked, a check box should do what it indicates.

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Guru ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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This check box DOES do what it indicates:

it ensures that the crop boundary is Constrained to (cannot stray outside of) being entirely filled from the source image, as that is currently being transformed. For example, as you rotate an image's horizon.

 

What the checkbox does NOT do, is lock the current aspect ratio of the crop.

 

Which: it doesn't indicate that it will.

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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Well, it should lock the current aspect ratio of the crop.  Still confusing.

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Guru ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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In changing the crop's size and position (as and when needed, due to straying outside of the image area) turning on this Constrain option doesn't alter the crop's aspect ratio

 

That is REGARDLESS of the state of the aspect 'padlock'. 

 

So what are you really asking for here?

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Community Beginner ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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Obviously, a better designed feature.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Apr 17, 2021 Apr 17, 2021

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It’s designed and named properly. In your earlier reply you said Constrain to Image should “lock the current aspect ratio of the crop,” but if so, then the change you propose would be confusing. Here is why: The existing name clearly says “Constrain to Image,” but you just said “lock the current aspect ratio of the crop.” Those are two different things.

 

For example, what if the image’s original aspect ratio is 3:2, but the current crop is 4:3 because it was changed? By your reasoning it would “lock the current aspect ratio of the crop” (4:3) not the of the image (3:2).

 

If you want to “lock the current aspect ratio of the crop” you should name your feature “Constrain to Crop,” not “Constrain to Image.” But as johnrellis already correctly showed, the option to “lock the current aspect ratio of the crop” already exists: It’s that existing padlock icon as shown. Notice that the lock icon is next to the aspect ratio menu; that’s how you know it locks the current aspect ratio.

 

“Constrain to Image” does what it says: It constrains the crop rectangle within the image borders.

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Community Beginner ,
Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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Uhhhhh, if it takes this much to explaint the feature, then it's obvviously poorly designed.  If I set the crop tool to "Original" aspect ratio, then that aspect ratio should be preserved.  

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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@defaultvesdr78c7pvn wrote:

Uhhhhh, if it takes this much to explaint the feature, then it's obvviously poorly designed.


 

No, you just have to read what the label actually says, without reading a different, unrelated meaning into it. For example…

 


@defaultvesdr78c7pvn wrote:

If I set the crop tool to "Original" aspect ratio, then that aspect ratio should be preserved.  


 

But…it doesn’t say Constrain to Original, so it should be clear there is no expectation that the original crop aspect ratio be preserved. It says Constrain to Image, so that means the crop constraint is the image border. Image means image…very clear.

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Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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No, it's very confusing.  The Crop tool in macOS Photos is a million times better. 

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Advisor ,
Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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it is maintained, dude, as long as you keep the ratio locked. Just because you don't understand how to use a tool, that doesn't mean it's poorly designed. There's plenty else that we can complain about with the crop tool, but your issue is definitely not one of those.

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Oct 14, 2021 Oct 14, 2021

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@defaultvesdr78c7pvn wrote:

Uhhhhh, if it takes this much to explaint the feature, then it's obvviously poorly designed.  If I set the crop tool to "Original" aspect ratio, then that aspect ratio should be preserved.  

 


Ah, so you believe everyone is born understanding how to operate (fill in the blank) and (fill in the blank) software? 

Look up RTFM; it will really help in the future. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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You know, the more I use macOS Photos, the more I like it.  Not only is it better designed and eaier to use, it's free.  There's more to life than A-dopey.

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@defaultvesdr78c7pvn wrote:

You know, the more I use macOS Photos, the more I like it.  Not only is it better designed and eaier to use, it's free.  There's more to life than A-dopey.

 


Glad that problem is solved.

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"

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