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June 1, 2024
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Clarifications sur les nouvelles conditions d'utilisation

  • June 1, 2024
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Bonjour,

 

Je cherche à mieux comprendre les nouvelles conditions d'utilisations des services Adobe, et notamment ce point :

 

4.1 Contenu. Le terme « Contenu » désigne tout texte, toute information, toute communication ou tout matériel, tel que les fichiers audio ou vidéo, les documents électroniques ou les images, que vous téléchargez, importez, intégrez dans les Services ou les Logiciels ou créez à l’aide de ces derniers.

 

Cela inclut-il les photos stockées localement que l'on importe dans Lightroom Classic ? La formulation est très ambiguë et laisse entendre que oui. Or les droits que s'attribue Adobe sur le-dit contenu sont quand même assez étendus. Cela pourrait sembler justifié pour le contenu sur le cloud, mais plutôt abusif pour le contenu local. Et qu'en est-il des nouvelles fonctionnalités d'IA génératives ?  Si une petite partie de notre photo a été retouchée avec la nouvelle gomme IA par exemple, la photo entière devient-elle automatiquement du contenu au sens de l'article 4.1 ci-dessus ?

 

Merci pour toute réponse qui aiderait à éclaircir ce point. Le lien vers les mentions légales complètes si besoin : https://www.adobe.com/fr/legal/terms.html

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Correct answer johnrellis

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"Does this include locally stored photos that are imported into Lightroom Classic?"

 

Yes. The English version is clear about this. From Adobe General Terms of Use:

 

"These General Terms of Use (“General Terms”) ... govern your use of and access to our websites, web-based applications and products, ...  services such as Creative Cloud (collectively, the “Services”) and your installation and use of any software that we include as part of the Services, including, without limitation, mobile and desktop applications...(collectively, the “Software”)."  [My emphasis]

 

"Content" explicitly includes images "imported into" Services and Software, which by definition includes desktop applications, which includes Lightroom Classic:

 

"4.1 Content. “Content” means any text, information, communication, or material, such as audio files, video files, electronic documents, or images, that you upload, import into, embed for use by, or create using the Services and Software. " [My emphasis]

 

By using the software, you agree to allow Adobe to use your content solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software:

 

"4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others."

 

I'm sure lawyers and courts would argue about what's included in "operating or improving the Services and Software", but it surely doesn't include selling your photos via Adobe Stock or other stock agencies.

 

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johnrellis
johnrellisCorrect answer
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June 2, 2024

[This post contains formatting and embedded images that don't appear in email. View the post in your Web browser.]

 

"Does this include locally stored photos that are imported into Lightroom Classic?"

 

Yes. The English version is clear about this. From Adobe General Terms of Use:

 

"These General Terms of Use (“General Terms”) ... govern your use of and access to our websites, web-based applications and products, ...  services such as Creative Cloud (collectively, the “Services”) and your installation and use of any software that we include as part of the Services, including, without limitation, mobile and desktop applications...(collectively, the “Software”)."  [My emphasis]

 

"Content" explicitly includes images "imported into" Services and Software, which by definition includes desktop applications, which includes Lightroom Classic:

 

"4.1 Content. “Content” means any text, information, communication, or material, such as audio files, video files, electronic documents, or images, that you upload, import into, embed for use by, or create using the Services and Software. " [My emphasis]

 

By using the software, you agree to allow Adobe to use your content solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software:

 

"4.2 Licenses to Your Content. Solely for the purposes of operating or improving the Services and Software, you grant us a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free sublicensable, license, to use, reproduce, publicly display, distribute, modify, create derivative works based on, publicly perform, and translate the Content. For example, we may sublicense our right to the Content to our service providers or to other users to allow the Services and Software to operate as intended, such as enabling you to share photos with others."

 

I'm sure lawyers and courts would argue about what's included in "operating or improving the Services and Software", but it surely doesn't include selling your photos via Adobe Stock or other stock agencies.

 

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    June 3, 2024

    Thank you @johnrellis for your very clear answer. I'm also pretty confident that Adobe won't sell my photos, but it's always disturbing to see fairly permissive terms of use. I always wonder where to draw the line between using such services and protecting my privacy. I don't have a strong opinion on this point.

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