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December 1, 2018
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Clearing the Library

  • December 1, 2018
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In an effort to speed up my LR experience I am curious if on my system a clean library would assist, therefore I need some exporting catalog or clean up advice.

I already have a pretty odd LR setup with how I manage my HDDs and stuff, 80% of my library doesn't work anyway because the original image file is no longer there (moved to another hdd).

My library says I have around 3427 images (that's what it says on my most recent import, a transparent '3427' kinda behind the thumbnail). I do use the Library feature, but only for a few sessions at a time. Once my internal SSD's get to full I migrate the RAWs and Exports to by backup Quaddock (holds multiple HDD's and is not left on all day as it is noisy and drains unnecessary power).

Perhaps it will help explain my workflow. It is important I don't want advice in this specific regard, I deliberately work like this to avoid having to constantly have 8TB's worth of HDD's whirring away for 90% of the time unnecessarily, I enjoy the low noise performance of my Skull Canyon NUC (which has an SD Card slot ).

  • Take photos on camera (writes to two cards simultaneously).
  • Eject one SD Card from camera, put in the NUC
  • Use Faststone Image Viewer to browse the RAW files quickly, tagging the keepers, I find this far far more fluid than importing a massive volume of files in LR and dealing with the cull at that point
  • Once I have tagged my keepers I use a feature in Faststone that moves those Files/Images to a new location (ie from the SD card to a Folder on the C:)
  • Eject SD Card from the NUC, put back in camera
  • Using Faststone Image viewer again, fire up the first image I want to work on in LR, I simply click 'E' and it opens the file in LR (prompts the Import).
  • I import, edit and Export the image
  • However, the C: is only a 250gb SSD, therefore around about every week to fortnight I need to Move both the RAW files and the Exports to my HDDs, to give me back 'working space' on the SSD. This however is much more preferable to me as it means I only have to toggle the HDD's once a week/fortnight for a few minutes. Bypassing the SDD and instead use the larger HDD from the outset not a viable option to me, it means I would have to toggle on my external HDD's daily, it completely negates the idea and premise against the purchase of the low powered/quiet NUC in the first place.

So that's what I'm left with, a LR library of hundreds of images, of which I still have all the files but the library is not able to find the files anymore as they've been moved.

I am hesitant to delete or wipe the library because it could be one day I want to go back to an edit rather than start from scratch again, I figure there must be a way to tell LR to also check 'here' (and make it point to my HDD where the RAW file will now be), and then proceed with the edit, or failing that manually find the image on the HDD and drag it back to it's original location on the SSD so LR can 'see it' again.

Truth be told I have not had to do either of those two things yet, however I like to be safe rather than sorry.

I mustn't be the only user using LR like this. People whom use it on laptops or tablets with limited internal SSD space, they must also have 'broken' libraries?

So two things;

1) A library of 2000+ is silly anyway, so many images, I can't find what I'm looking for easily, and I get a sluggish 'searching' experience

2) I'm hoping that clearing the library, or at least canning a certain amount to leaving the last 200 images or so still there will lead to a quicker navigation and less sluggish LR experience. I'm sure if my PC had proper processing power this might not be such an issue.

So how do I empty my library in such a way that should I want to work on an old image I can 'import' my old library (catalog?) and then either point it to where the file now exists or manually put the file back to the SSD?

TIA!

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    Community Expert
    December 1, 2018

    By ignoring the basic tenets in how Lightroom works, there is no way anyone in a forum environment can efficiently get your mess straightened out.  Stop using Lightroom!  It is not for you!  From Fastone, edit in Photoshop that uses the same Lightroom tools in ACR.  It will save your RAW work in .XMP sidecar files. 

    If you insist on using Lightroom, do two things.

    1.  Start using Lightroom, not the Windows Explore, to move you files off you HDD.

    2.  Start a process where you gradually reconnect LR to your moved files.

    If you don't want to do #2, abandon your old catalog and start a new one.

    dunker56Author
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    December 1, 2018

    Does abandoning this current catalog and starting a new one mean I lose the old catalog and the edits? I'm in the middle of editing a session, can I create a New Catalog and move some of the images from the old catalog to the new one?

    Rob_Cullen
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    Community Expert
    December 1, 2018

    During the time taken to get the responses I was in Live Chat with an adobe rep.

    We created a File>New Catalog and named it something appropriate, and I was even able to select 24 images from the last catalog and port them into the new one.

    I now have a catalog that has 24 images, an incredibly faster load time and user experience (night and day difference).

    My old catalog (the only one I've ever had or used) had actually over 3400 images in it (not 2400 I thought, I'm number dyslexic).

    I cannot possibly go through that old catalog and find missing files etc, I imagine 95% are missing anyway as the majority of files have been moved to the external HDD. I simply don't have the time to do that.

    You wrote that effectively by creating a new catalog you lose the old edits... this is not correct though is it? What's stopping me at any time from File>Open Catalog, selecting old catalog, and then selecting the image I want to revisit, getting the 'missing file' notification and either manually finding the RAW file from my HDD and putting it back to where the catalog wants it to be, or tell the catalog to 'check out this location for the missing file' and wait a bit?

    I repeat... in my 2yrs of shooting I have yet to actually want to revisit a file for touch ups, it's not a scenario I am likely to face, but just in case it would be nice to be able to do that. How is having multiple catalogs effectively stopping me from doing this exactly?

    Where I find 'library' and 'catalogs' handy is when working in a single session/shoot. I edit a shot, choose the style, edit the presets etc, and then for continuation/consistency/speed of work flow purposes use the Sync feature. But once I have done those edits, and a week or two passes, I am unlikely to really revisit those images for tweaks again.


    What's stopping me at any time from File>Open Catalog, selecting old catalog, and then selecting the image I want to revisit, getting the 'missing file' notification and either manually finding the RAW file from my HDD and putting it back to where the catalog wants it to be, or tell the catalog to 'check out this location for the missing file' and wait a bit?

    Yes you can open the 'old' catalog. Nothing stopping you.

    You can "put (photos) back to where the 'old' catalog wants it to be". BUT, and the problem it creates- Now the 'New' Catalog has lost the file location and it is shown as 'Missing' in the 'new' catalog, because you moved the file.  Another strong argument for only having ONE catalog.

    I am unlikely to really revisit those images for tweaks again.

    My son wanted old photos of him as a child for a Birthday event- I had him keyworded in files back to 2004- so easy to find with one click in the Keyword list panel!  And as for "tweaks"- you might be amazed how the more recent versions of software can do a better job of edits.

    One catalog- all photos.! that's my mantra for Lightroom.

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .