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Dave Rye
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December 12, 2021
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Combine effected area of multiple masks to create a new mask so I can set the effects as one?

  • December 12, 2021
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Any way to copy shapes only from multiple masks and have them combined into a new one? Would let me use AI to select subject, sky, etc. then add small corrections, and then combine the area affected. If it created a new mask I could delete the prior ones and only alter the effects for one. And I could invert the new combined mask to make life much easier at times.

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rickburress
Inspiring
January 4, 2022

I agree.

 

There seems to be no way (incredible, and sad) to combine (add, subtract, or intersect) ANY two masks.

Subtract Mask 1 from Mask 2.

Ought to be simple.

 

What am I missing? And, yes, I know I can always subtract a Sky, or a Subject. That's not what I asking. ANY two Masks. That's the deal.

Community Expert
January 4, 2022

Each Mask's selection reflects the extent of a specific (independent) adjustment, that the photo was deemed to require. 

 

So how should, or could, two such items be combined? ...say for example, one Mask is applying a WB correction while the other is leaving WB alone. So what is the combined Mask to do, so far as adjusting WB?

 

And / or, say that one Mask is applying positive Exposure (among other things), and a selection of areas to be lightened is made accordingly, while the other Mask is applying negative Exposure and areas to be darkened have been selected. How can those two be sensibly resolved into one?

rickburress
Inspiring
May 9, 2022

You don't have to use COPY.  You can use OPTION Hold-Click and Drag to copy the mask components from one mask to another or create a new mask.


Not so, in Adobe Camera Raw.

Are you doing this in LightRoom?

Community Expert
December 12, 2021

The new (version 11) masking method does allow you to combine multiple kinds of selection, by addition or subtraction, and to associate the whole lot with a single set of "effects".

 

Only when you want to apply different "effects" do you need to maintain separate masks. 

 

As an example, you might select Subject, invert that so you select only whatever is not subject, then select Sky as a subtraction from that, to produce a complex selection of "all the background around the subject, but excluding sky areas", and apply some adjustment to all those parts of the photo. Then you might make a second mask within which there is only a Sky selection, and apply some different adjustment to just those parts of the photo.

 

Equally, you might use non-AI selections: say, a gradient mask and then adding onto this, some brushing and then subtracting from this, some other brushing. So the gradient, the additive brushing and the subtractive brushing can each be further edited in its own right, but their combination will then update and the adjustments being applied onto the photo will update correspondingly.

 

Or, of course non-AI kinds of selection and AI kinds of selection can be combined together as needed.

 

The fact that this consists of multiple "layers" of selection all combining by Add or Subtract logic, does mean that if you then wanted to invert the whole lot, that will involve not only inverting individual parts, but also switching the logic of how these are combining together - by changing from Add to Subtract, or from Subtract to Add. But you won't want to make both kinds of change to the same "layer". Taking the first example above: "Subject (inverted) minus Sky" would fully reverse as "Subject plus Sky". The Subject part getting 'switched' in its effect by no longer inverting it, and the combining Sky part getting 'switched' in its effect by Adding that rather than Subtracting that.