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sockit
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May 5, 2021
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creating groups of keywords

  • May 5, 2021
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I am trying to learn about keywording. I have lists of keywords for people and also for other objects.

I realise that it is much easier to create groupings of keywords for  people or thing that commonly go together as this facilitates loading it into the metadata.

As I would am preparing to create a number of these groupings, it would be easier if they were all together in some place where I can select them..So far I have not found such a solution It seems that with people grouping they are placed in the same list as the individual identifiers..  I have therefore been exploring using names like the beginnin of the telephone directory such as aaamyfirs group. This seems very clumsy and I would like advice on how to solve this problem.

Thanks

Terence

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Correct answer Rob_Cullen

I apologies for the misspelling of your name

Terence


the number of identified photos

You must first identify, and show in Grid View, ALL photos with the 'wrong' KW, by clicking on the white arrow that appears at the end of a KW.

Then press [Ctrl +A] to be sure you select all that you want to 'convert' to the 'correct' KW. Other than that I am not sure why you see a difference.

 

No Name apology needed!  My son indroduced my nik-name when he called me "Wobert the Wave Rat" (paddled a surf-ski with that brand at the time).

Robert Cullen 🙂

 

 

 

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@MNiessenPhoto
@MNiessenPhoto
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May 7, 2021

Hi,

You can have keywords inside keywords, thus effectively acting like folders and subfolders, and for each keyword the possibility to uncheck the "include on export" option.

Personally, I have ~what, ~when, ~where, ~who, etc... as main categories (I always use ~ in front of keywords/folders that are just for organizing and will not be exported).

~what is further subdivided into ~objects, ~animals, ~vegetation, and so on... Within animals I have among others birds (it is exported, so no ~) and within it pigeon, hawk, sparrow,...

 

Now, for assigning groups of keywords at once (or quickly), there are a few options. You can create keywords sets (in the Library's keywording panel) containing up to 9 keywords each. Just open one of those and you'll have butttons for the corresponding 9 keywords. Quite useful, as is also the "Painter" option in the toolbar (type one or more keywords and then "spray paint" them on the pictures). And of course, you can also create metadata presets that contain keyword sets for specific topics.

 

Hope that helps,

Michael

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sockitAuthor
Inspiring
May 7, 2021

p.s. Michael.  I am still figuring out the Keywording Panel.   I was wondering whether they can be used for creating different combinations of participants  such as   Joe,Mary,Allen,Fred      Joe,Allen    Mary Fred      etc

I am fighing with the fact tha Lightroom can't  handle negativess  in its face recognition, and I am therefore trying to do it manually.. Also can I create any number of panels like this?

Thanks

Terence

kentdesign
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kentdesignCommunity Expert
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May 7, 2021

"I was wondering whether they can be used for creating different combinations of participants  such as   Joe,Mary,Allen,Fred      Joe,Allen    Mary Fred      etc"

They could, but it could quickly become a nightmarish situation if you create a set each possible combinations, so you could end up wasting more time than if you tagged people one by one.  But having a set of up to 9 people at one event as a way to see only those present and tag them would definitely help. I do that sometimes for specific cases, thouhg not with people. I create a custom set, tag my pictures, then delete it because it's unique to those picture and I won't re-use it.

I'm not sure there is a limit to the number of keywords sets, but if there is, my guess is you'll get lost in a long list of sets before you reach that limit 😉

In any case, that will not make them linked to their faces, but only to the whole picture.

 

Michael

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Michael Niessen - Photographer, photo-editor, educator


Thank you both, Michael and Wobert!

This is an area of LR I had not fully explored myself, so in trying to help someone, and reading your answers, I learned a ton!

    Rob_Cullen
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    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
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    May 7, 2021

    I use the Groups like  Who, What, Where, etc-  (I slip up occasionally with an extra one in the 'parent' list!

    I have one 'Parent' group dedicated to any new KW that does not match an existing KW- It will automatically be added to this Group-

    ("#NEW KEYWORDS"  appears at the top of the list because @#$% characters sort before ABCD characters.)

    And I have nominated the "WHO#" group to be for all keywords marked as 'Person' KWs.

     

     

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    sockitAuthor
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2021

    Hi Wobert.  Thanks that is clearly the key to the problem  I really appreciate your help.  I have made the Whats and Wheres  classify not as persons but as Others. However there is not much written about that group. I cannot find a separated display for that grouping so they are out there somewhere and I have not yet figured out how to deal with them. You seem to treat them as persons in that list is that correct?  What is the point of the "Others"?

    Thanks

    Terence

     

     

     

    kentdesign
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    kentdesignCommunity Expert
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    May 6, 2021

    HI, GOing to try to figure that one out - I have never found a solution to date!

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