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Custom menu shortcuts have dropped off

Forum|Forum|3 years ago
December 21, 2022
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All the custom shortcuts have just dropped off my File->Plug-in Extras menu and can't be put back on. Has anyone figured out how to get them back? Ventura 13.1, Lightroom 12.0.1

macOS

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C.Cella

Legend

@kimaldis

So what happens is that the shortcuts do appear assigned/existing on Mac in the Preferences on Ventura but you actually need to re-enter them.

At least that's how I fixed it when I upgraded to Ventura.

Take a screenshot of the current kbsc, then remove them all and re-apply them.

FWIW there is nothing Adobe can do to fix this if it persists.

It's Apple's fault if they don't work.

Worth saying that some kbsc do not work at all even if applied by Mac.

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K

kimaldisAuthor

Inspiring

No. They're neither in the Lightroom menu nor in Apple preferences. I've been running Ventura for a while now. Shortcuts disappeared 2-3 days ago.

johnrellis

Legend

Yeah, that works. Thanks.

It seems to go against the Apple documentation on how to do this, though - see attached and link below. Also, setting a shortcut for, say, Photo->Flip Horizontal, works with "Photo->Flip Horizontal" in the shortcut menu title field. The '->' notation seems to work on all menus except Lightroom's plugin extras menu with the indents. Go figure.

( https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchlp2271/mac )

Re https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchlp2271/mac, that's very interesting. I think the optional use of hierarchical menu titles in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts > App Shortcuts was introduced by Apple relatively recently. The Wayback Machine shows that help page dating back to just 2019, while googling for "mac create keyboard shortcuts" brings up a long list of tutorials, none of which mention the hierarchical form (I looked at the first half dozen).

Being a shortcut nerd, I tested the hierarchical form in the Library and Develop modules with many LR commands, and it appears that some of the top-level menus support it and some not. The ones that support it:

Library Module: Library, Photo, Metadata, View

Develop Module: Develop, Photo, Settings, Tools, View

This doesn't surprise me, given that LR's implementation of keyboard shortcuts in general appears ad hoc at best, and I think LR often departs from standard Mac app UI libraries to make it easier to port it between Mac and Windows.

@kimaldis, your find is good to know in case others trip over this!

JohanElzenga

Community Expert

Custom menu shortcuts are created in MacOS, not in Lightroom Classic. Did you check your MacOS settings?

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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kimaldisAuthor

Inspiring

Yes. Like I said, they can't be put back on again. The shortcuts MmacOS preference pane takes them but they won't appear in Lightroom.

JohanElzenga

Community Expert

Did you remember to add three spaces in front of the menu name? You needed to do that because plugin menus are indented, so I assume you still need to do that.

-- Johan W. Elzenga

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