Edit in PS... Then batch save and close?

[garyblakemeister]

I'm running into a unique problem that no amount of Google has been able to solve for me.
I do a bulk of my editing in LR Classic, but for certain groups of photos I give extra attention in PS.

Here's my issue:

If I create an action that includes SAVE and CLOSE in PS, those files DO NOT get sent back to LR.
But if I manually save each one they DO get sent back to LR.

Is there anything I can do to batch save my changes in PS so they get sent back to LR?
It would help my workflow tremendously. Thank you!

[Just Shoot Me]

Not sure how you are saving but a simple Ctrl + s will save the file and send it back to LR then a Ctrl + w closes that image.

Are you working on RAW files sent from LR?

What is in your Action to Save and then Close each image?

If it is a Batch Save & Close, Saving & Closing all at the same time that might be the problem.

[garyblakemeister]

Thanks for the response.

Yes, when I save individually using Ctrl+S those files are getting sent back into LR no problem.

But if that Ctrl+S is included in my action so I can batch apply it to all of the open files LR is not getting those.

Here you can see the action consists exclusively of CTRL+S
And that in Automate->Batch I'm doing nothing but applying that to open files

[JP Hess]

I have never tried the batch save option integrated with Lightroom. I'm wondering what would happen if you checked that box, "Override   'Save As' commands". If you use Save As normally in Photoshop the image won't return to Lightroom, and I'm wondering if this could be the problem.

[garyblakemeister]

I tried it to the same result of my files not returning to Lightroom.

I always thought actions were just macros to save time, but for some reason CTRL+S is being turned into some similar command by Actions that is incompatible with LR.

If somebody can hack this for me it would be greatly appreciated.
Batch saving is such a time saver.

[Just Shoot Me]

What happens if you run that action on one image at a time.

Also are you sending JPGs to PS or RAW files?

If JPGs then the PS edits are just being burnt into the original JPG and no New file is being created. Or they are being saved with the Save As system.

[garyblakemeister]

Great question. And these are RAW (CR2) files.

If I run the action on one file directly from the action pane then it works perfectly.
My file returns to LR.

So the hitch is in the AUTOMATE->BATCH system somewhere

I'm shocked more people don't batch save back into LR.
I haven't been able to Google an elegant solution to this.

[JP Hess]

Since this is primarily a user to user forum, you might get a better response by posting the question in the following forum where the developers monitor much more closely:

Lightroom Classic | Photoshop Family Customer Community

[garyblakemeister]

Thank you! I might also try that.
I was hoping somebody had found a good method for batch saving back into LR that I hadn't thought of.

[Just Shoot Me]

I don't think it is in the batch system.

Here is a screen shot of an action I just created after sending several images to PS from LR.

Note that the Path and the File Name is included in the Save part. Running that action on one images saves and closes that image and places a TIF file in that folder in LR.

What does your Save section of that action show? Does it show the path and file name? If it does then with every save it is Overwriting the original file.

I ran my action on an image from another folder and it got saved to the folder that cation was pointing to and got the file name as shown in the action. Overwriting the original file in that folder.

[garyblakemeister]

Mine shows the path as well.
And Batch WORKS on a single image, but if I run it when 2+ files are open it doesn't work at all.

Try running that batch with 5 files open and see if any of them return to LR for you.

[Just Shoot Me]

garyblakemeister  wrote

Great question. And these are RAW (CR2) files.

If I run the action on one file directly from the action pane then it works perfectly.
My file returns to LR.

And when you so do a Save or use the action to save and close what type of file gets returned to LR.

Unless you are using the second entry in the External Editing section of the LR preferences dialog and selecting to save the file as a JPG the standard options are TIFF or PSD. so I have no idea how you are getting JPGs as shown in your first screen shot.

Also you have not Expanded that action to show exactly what is included in it

[garyblakemeister]

The JPGs were just brought in to show the actions I'm using and so I could bring up the Automate->Batch screen.

The files returned are .tif

Here's an actual screenshot of a CR2 sent to PS from LR.  Action fully expanded.

[garyblakemeister]

Hopefully a helpful insight.
If I have a single file opened then the Save Action works, even in Automate->Batch
The single file returns to LR

But if there are 2 files open in PS and I run the Save Action in Automate->Batch, neither file is returned to LR.

[JenniferLJ]

Hi Gary, 

Did you ever find a resolution?  I'm in the same boat, noticed batch save does not save files back to Lightroom.  Instead they go to their own folder within the file structure but then I have to sync the folder in Lr and when brought in, the images are not stacked.  Totally disrupts my workflow.

[JohnTomBlack]

Any resolution here? This is a super annoying bug and I can't belive it's still happening. 

[richardplondon]

one possible tactic: rather than initiating the PS edit of Raw normally (passing through ACR silently, image created in memory only at first), to use an external editing preset to initiate this. There then follows a different interaction between PS and LrC.

In the standard workflow, PS gets an unsaved image and the subsequent Save needs to do several things at the same time: to create the file on disk but also to communicate to the Catalog that something new needs to be imported. It seems this latter part is what is failing to happen when save is invoked by a batch Action.

In the workflow that an external preset produces (and the same will happen when a non-Adobe editor is  used, or if  LrC and PS are not version-compatible) the creation of the file on disk AND its import into the Catalog have already happened before PS sees anything. In this case if is LrC itself that has rendered the Raw conversion into pixels, not ACR, and therefore what is opened in PS is an already existing file. Therefore all that needs to happen when the image is subsequently saved by PS, is the update of a file on disk. LrC has that file already imported regardless of PS saving or not; it is "looking out for" any later re-saves in any case: however that re-save is being invoked at the PS end, should make zero difference to LrC AFAICT.

The main difficulty of this method IMO, is training oneself to not use Ctrl+E shortcut - and remembering to choose Edit In... / [name of preset] instead!

[JohnTomBlack]

It was requested that this also get posted to the PS support page, so I went ahead and added it with a bit more information. I've been told they can replicate the issue and are working to resolve. 
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-bugs/edit-in-ps-then-batch-save-and-close/idi-p/1...