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August 29, 2024
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Eingebettete Vorschau - Farbprofil, Dateiprofil?

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Hallo Zusammen,

 

ich arbeite seit neuestem mit LRc und habe eine simple Frage.
In der Bibliothek wird in der Dateivorschau zum jeweiligen Bild auch auf dem Bild ein Icon angezeigt "Eingebettete Vorschau".

Welches Farbprofil, oder Adobe Einstellung liegt diese Anzeige zu Grunde?

Natürlich ändert sich die Anzeige des Bildes, wenn ich in den Bereich Entwicklung wechsle. Standardmäßig ist Adobe hinterlegt, habe aber nun Leica SL3 als zu verwendendes Profil hinterlegt. 
Dennoch ist die Anzeige der Vorschau unverändert.  Im Bereich Entwicklung konnte ich auch keinen Unterschied zwischen Adobe Farbe (standardmäßig hinterlegt) und meiner persönlichen Einstellung, Kamera Leica SL3 erkennen.

Wenn ich dann auf das Icon klicke, passt LRc das Bild an (vermutlich auf das hinterlegte Profil, Adobe, oder Kamera - in meinem Fall Leica SL3)


Was habe ich übersehen, oder ist das DNG File von Leica das Problem?

 

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Per Berntsen
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August 29, 2024
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Embedded Preview - Color Profile, File Profile?

I have recently started working with LRc and have a simple question.
In the library, an icon is also displayed on the image in the file preview for the respective image: "Embedded preview".

What color profile, or Adobe setting, is the basis of this display?

Of course, the display of the image changes when I switch to the Development section. Adobe is stored by default, but I have now stored Leica SL3 as the profile to be used. 
Nevertheless, the display of the preview is unchanged.  In the area of development, I could not see any difference between Adobe color (stored by default) and my personal setting, camera Leica SL3.

If I then click on the icon, LRc adjusts the image (probably to the stored profile, Adobe, or camera - in my case Leica SL3)


What did I miss, or is the DNG file from Leica the problem?

By @l_1539

 

"Embedded preview" means that Library has not created its own preview, but is displaying the jpg embedded in the raw file. This is for performance reasons, the photos will appear much faster because no previews have been created.

This jpg will usually display differently than LrC's rendering, because it has settings applied by the camera.

This will happen when you have set Build previews to Embedded & Sidecar under File handling in the import dialog. Use any of the other options, and LrC will create its own Library previews.

 

l_1539Author
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August 29, 2024

Hi, thanks for your quick reply👍. This helps regarding the preview. So if I click the Button "embedded preview" it leaves the preview and show the image as an interpreted RAW File, for example "adobe standard"

If I am using my Canon Camera, R3, I am able to choose, if I would like not to use the adobe rendering, the profiles of my Camera, like "Canon Standard" or "Canon Portrait", in the next step editing.

But with my Leica SL3 I do not have the possibility to choose other than adobe suggesions, like "adobe color", "adobe standard" and so on.

And the question rises, which color profile do I see, if I click the "embedded preview" in library - same like in editing?

 

Per Berntsen
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August 29, 2024

The camera decides how to render the jpg preview based on the current settings in the camera. There may be a list of profiles (renderings) to choose from in the menu system.

Unfortunately, Adobe does not provide camera matching profiles for DNG files from Leica cameras, except for the CL and M8. You can create a feature request (Idea) for this if you like.

You can also create a preset in LrC, based on one of the Adobe profiles and with your own refinements, and have that preset applied on import.

See https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/raw-defaults.html

 

FWIW, I never use camera profiles. I find that Adobe Standard provides a good, neutral starting point, and then do my own edits from there.