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Inspiring
February 18, 2022
Question

Filtering by treatment to show B&W images finds only some B&W

  • February 18, 2022
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I have many B&W images, all as virtual copies and have found the both filtering by treatment and as a smart collection on this same setting only finds some of my B&Ws.  I've checked several of those missing in the filtered group, and are all set in Develop to Black and White, profile Adobe Monochrome.

For one of the missing B&W virtual copies, I made a new virtual copy, and this was missing too in the filtering.  So I took it into Develop made one change - Treatment to Color then back to B&W.  This new image was now 'found' in the filtered group. Any ideas on how I can fix this nasty issue please?

Using Lightroom Classic v11.2 under Windows 10.

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john beardsworth
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Community Expert
February 18, 2022

Try deleting the Helper.lrdata file in the LR catalogue's folder. LR will rebuild this next time.

p.ewing16Author
Inspiring
February 19, 2022

Thanks for your suggestion John.  However doing that has not cured the problem.

Community Expert
February 22, 2022

But that is not the bug I am highlighting which is this: the Library Filter called Treatment is supposed to filter a subset of images that have the Develop module setting of Treatment, which can be either Color or Black & White.  Nothing to do with other methods to create a monochrome effect.


I do realise what the Filter should be doing, but the fact that the HSL panel is showing in full (and not changing to the B&W Mix panel) suggests that your Catalog is currently not considering or treating these images as being fully in B&W mode. That is of a piece IMO, with the observed situation with the B&W filtering.

 

So it is surely a relevant troubleshooting query to seek details of the specific steps leading to this, something for which at this moment we have only guesswork. There are several alternative ways to put an image into a B&W appearance and we don't know as yet which of those had been used, even whether always the same or sometimes different. Apart from, that it wasn't via a preset (although if it had been, we'd still have had to know which specific B&W method the preset was implementing).