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snman
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October 29, 2018
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From Raw exporting to JPEG

  • October 29, 2018
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Greetings

so I have a raw file I edited and when I export as jpg it's just completely different.

This is how this picture looks like after my edits at preview within Lightroom. I have captured it by pressing printscreen and pasting into mspaint

and this is the export

I'm not sure why this  is happening I am using the same color profile as my monitor at export

Thank you in advance

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Correct answer TheDigitalDog

IF you embed any ICC profile, sRGB or otherwise, an ICC aware application will match what you see in LR and Photoshop etc. If it doesn't match, that's your problem. Try with something quite different than sRGB (say ProPhoto RGB), the image will mismatch even worse. Using sRGB alone isn't the answer. Non ICC aware applications have no idea what sRGB means, they don't understand the profile that is used by the display to provide color managed previews etc. Not being a Windows user, I can't tell you for sure if the applications you're using are color managed or not, or if they've been configured for this if possible.

You have Photoshop right? Do the images you export from LR match in Photoshop? They should indeed. Again, if they do but not the other applications you mention, then those other applications are the problem. And again, here's why sRGB alone doesn't fix that problem:

sRGB urban legend & myths Part 2

In this 17 minute video, I'll discuss some more sRGB misinformation and cover:

When to use sRGB and what to expect on the web and mobile devices

How sRGB doesn't insure a visual match without color management, how to check

The downsides of an all sRGB workflow

sRGB's color gamut vs. "professional" output devices

The future of sRGB and wide gamut display technology

Photo print labs that demand sRGB for output

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/sRGBMythsPart2.mp4

Low resolution on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvVUL1gWVs

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snman
snmanAuthor
Participant
October 31, 2018

This has been informational. I got to learn about color profiles.

My problem was elsewhere though.

I was able to solve my issue by going to edit > preferences > presets and reset all default development settings.

Seems like Lightroom applied some automatic settings when viewing the files , that were just not there when exporting.

I may have caused this something.

Now my exported jpegs look like my exported nef files.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
October 29, 2018

What product are you using when you view the exported image and are you absolutely certain it's color managed (ICC aware)?  It has to be or you'll not see a match. mspaint is Microsoft Paint?

https://eskerahn.dk/wordpress/?p=1566

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
snman
snmanAuthor
Participant
October 30, 2018

To explain better:

I am using Lightroom Desktop Classic 8.0 Release Camera Raw 11.0 Build 1193777

I loaded a nef file which I edited within lightroom and then pressed to export as a jpeg. I exported by using all color spaces I could select. I included all metadata in the export as well.

My changes are not there. The JPEG picture is nothing like the edit and I'm not talking about a small quality distortion here.

The ICC aware question is a good one.

Assuming that Windows Photos is not ICC aware and somehow the windows preview on file manager is not displaying what it should, I tried to open this jpeg with GIMP and then Microsoft paint. The result was the same.

I have also chosen sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as a system default at color management which is the same with the color space I exported (sRGB).

This is a screenshot how it looks like for me within Lightroom:

https://i.imgur.com/L0KLb6i.png

This is how it looks like after exported:

https://i.imgur.com/qwscztH.jpg

I'm not sure what's the deal here. Maybe i m not using Lightroom properly?

Is Lightroom meant only to create metadata to save to xmp files and then you have to load this raw file and their metadata into photoshop to export it like a JPEG?

Thanks

TheDigitalDog
TheDigitalDogCorrect answer
Inspiring
October 30, 2018

IF you embed any ICC profile, sRGB or otherwise, an ICC aware application will match what you see in LR and Photoshop etc. If it doesn't match, that's your problem. Try with something quite different than sRGB (say ProPhoto RGB), the image will mismatch even worse. Using sRGB alone isn't the answer. Non ICC aware applications have no idea what sRGB means, they don't understand the profile that is used by the display to provide color managed previews etc. Not being a Windows user, I can't tell you for sure if the applications you're using are color managed or not, or if they've been configured for this if possible.

You have Photoshop right? Do the images you export from LR match in Photoshop? They should indeed. Again, if they do but not the other applications you mention, then those other applications are the problem. And again, here's why sRGB alone doesn't fix that problem:

sRGB urban legend & myths Part 2

In this 17 minute video, I'll discuss some more sRGB misinformation and cover:

When to use sRGB and what to expect on the web and mobile devices

How sRGB doesn't insure a visual match without color management, how to check

The downsides of an all sRGB workflow

sRGB's color gamut vs. "professional" output devices

The future of sRGB and wide gamut display technology

Photo print labs that demand sRGB for output

High resolution: http://digitaldog.net/files/sRGBMythsPart2.mp4

Low resolution on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvVUL1gWVs

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 29, 2018

What do you mean 'I'm using the same color profile as my monitor on export'? You should export in sRGB (or AdobeRGB, depending on the use of the JPEG), not in a monitor color profile!

-- Johan W. Elzenga