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January 14, 2017
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How do I access photos in old catalog?

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I have been using Lightroom for a few years (now CC) and had all my images in one catalog. I recently got notices about the catalog being too large and the need to "optimize" it, so I started a new catalog as of Jan. 1. I can access images in the folder I imported into the new catalog easily. However when I try to see images in a folder from the original catalog, I go to File / Open Catalog. I then see all my old folders, but the image names are grayed out and I can't see or open them. I can retrieve them normally in Bridge or Finder. I am using a MacBookPro with OS 10.12.2. I appreciate any help I can get.

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    Correct answer Just Shoot Me

    The error message you got is a glitch in LR and or OS X and should be ignored. Just click the check box "Don't show this again" (or something like that).

    See this thread.

    Catalog size is more than 4GB error?

    Open and continue using your original catalog. Reimport current images into the original catalog.

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    Drostow11520993Author
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    January 17, 2017

    You guys are great - I'm learning a lot, but I want to get something off my chest. It seems like software developers at Adobe and elsewhere feel like they have to justify their existence by overcomplicating things and putting out way too many unnecessary bells and whistles with each software upgrade. Every article I have read suggests using only one catalog, so why allow for the creation of more and just create all this confusion? Is it really necessary? ADOBE, ARE YOU LISTENING? If you have this burning need to over-create, why don't you hide the possibility of more than one catalog under a tab called "Only for really smart geeks with too much time on their hands" so room temperature  IQ guys like me aren't tempted to do something stupid. There ought to be a law that software updates are only allowed to fix known glitches and introduce only one or two new features at a time. OK, I feel better now.

    cmgap
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    cmgapCommunity Expert
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    January 17, 2017

    There are of course other POVs...

    One of the most common occurrences with Lightroom is that folks jump right in and start importing images without first learning how to set up and use a catalog. One doesn't generally expect to download and install Quicken to do their bookkeeping and have it all make sense without some type of training or self-learning.

    Adobe has invested a good deal of time and effort to make the learning curve easier and provides an impressive array of free learning resources via helpx.adobe.com, tv.adobe.com and the Adobe Lightroom blog. There really is no excuse... check this out today, watch a couple of the videos in the beginner track. Watch out it's addicting!

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    Drostow11520993Author
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    January 15, 2017

    Thank you all for your help! I set up my original catalog under preferences as the default, imported the one new folder into the old catalog, checked the ignore in the future box on the warning window, and all is well. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me. I went to Finder to delete the new catalog, but I couldn't tell which LR files were from the original catalog and which ones were from the new, but since I'm now set up to use the old catalog and everything works, I'll just leave things alone. Thanks again.

    Rob_Cullen
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    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
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    January 15, 2017

    [CTRL+ALT+,  ]  (or Open Catalog Settings)  will tell you the exact folder tree where the catalog you currently have open is located in your computer. This is the one NOT to delete!

    Then you can use finder to delete the other 'unwanted' along with its previews (that are occupying valuable space on your hard drive).

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
    cmgap
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    cmgapCommunity Expert
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    January 15, 2017

    cmgap I slightly disagree with your opinion to select that option in the LR preferences. In my opinion it would be better to select Other from the drop down list and then browse to the actual catalog you want to use and place the actual path to that catalog file in that field.

    That way it will always open that catalog instead of having to constantly selecting it from the list that comes up.

    When I install a new version of LR I always rename the catalog file to correspond with the version  number and place the it in a folder of similar naming so I can always locate it easily.


    JSM - Selecting 'Prompt me when opening' is a good way for a new user to see where their catalogs are, how many catalogs are on their drive(s) in the same dialog box they are in and hopefully give a visual cue to clean up any catalogs they didn't know they had.

    More advanced users will have no trouble with your suggestion of using 'other...' it absolutely is a more direct path.

    Just Shoot Me
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    January 14, 2017

    The error message you got is a glitch in LR and or OS X and should be ignored. Just click the check box "Don't show this again" (or something like that).

    See this thread.

    Catalog size is more than 4GB error?

    Open and continue using your original catalog. Reimport current images into the original catalog.

    Rob_Cullen
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    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
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    January 14, 2017

    Some comments based on your post-

    Call your catalog to "Optimize" the 'working catalog'

    "Photos in old catalog"-  Photos are not "IN" a catalog, they are somewhere in your computer drive system.

    "started a new catalog"-  Is the wrong thing to do!  Nothing in the new catalog will be the same as the 'working catalog' you have been using.

    "I can access images in the folder I imported into the new catalog"- Yes you can, but that is a totally new 'version' of a catalog that has no relationship whatsoever to the 'working catalog'.  You may "Import from another catalog" to combine the new and 'working catalog' but that is not achieved by Importing photos to the new catalog.

    "Open Catalog. I then see all my old folders, but the image names are grayed out"- What catalog are you opening here? Is it a very old Backup copy?  If it is an old backup version, then probably you have moved images or renamed folders, etc, and the catalog has old references to photos that are no longer valid.

    "I recently got notices about the catalog being too large and the need to "optimize" it,"-  Where did you get this notice? Did you read it as a suggestion somewhere?  If you regularly backup the catalog ("Every time you close Lightroom" is a good option!) then there is an option to "Optimize" when you make the backup, OR on the File Menu > Optimize Catalog. How many photos are in your 'working catalog' that makes you think it is too large?

    And I am also curious to see your screen-shots.

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.1.1, Photoshop 27.3.1, ACR 18.1.1, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.2 .
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    Drostow11520993Author
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    January 14, 2017

    First of all, thank you cmgap and wobertc for trying to help me.

      - I understand the photos themselves are not in the catalog, just the metadata and previews.

      - Perhaps I need to explain what happened better. When I went to close Lightroom a window appeared saying that my catalog was too large, greater than 4 GB I believe, and that the catalog would need to be "optimized". I clicked to optimize the catalog. When this happened a second time, I got worried that maybe I should start a second catalog.  If there is really no problem with a large catalog and needing to optimize it every time is no big deal, then should I just delete the second catalog and import the images back into the original catalog?

       - When you say "working" catalog, is that somehow different than other catalogs? I haven't seen that term before.

    Here's a screen shot which shows the new catalog with just one folder (on an external HD) so far:

    Here's a screen shot of what I get when I go to File / Open catalog and I navigate to all the old folders in my original catalog, and the folders are grayed out and clicking on a file does nothing.

        Again, thanks for any help you can give me.

    cmgap
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    cmgapCommunity Expert
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    January 14, 2017

    A couple of things...

    As Just Shoot Me has mentioned the Catalog Size error message can be ignored because it is a bug. And there is no need to create a second catalog. When you go to File > Open Catalog and navigate to a folder of images you can't select an image because Lr is looking for a .lrcat file not an image. Does that make sense?

    Quit Lr and reopen your original catalog and the next time you quit Lr check the "Don't Show Again' box so that you can ignore that error message.

    cmgap
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    cmgapCommunity Expert
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    January 14, 2017

    Can you post a screen shot?

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