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December 4, 2021
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How to sort images so RAW files show first, before JPGs?

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I shoot with Nikon so my RAW files are NEFs. I would like to sort my images in Lightroom by type or by extension but I want my NEF files to appear before the JPGs and not the other way around (which is what I'm getting). I've done this many times before and can't get LR to do it with this last shoot.

 

What have I forgotten?

 

Using LR Classic 2021 on a Mac. That's the latest LR I can use because my OSX is Mojave. I hope there's a solution without needing an upgrade. I've done this in older LR versions.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

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Todd Shaner
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December 4, 2021

Try Sort type 'Added Order.' My Canon DSLR raw + JPEG imports sort with the raw CR2 files first and then the JPEG files. I'm sure it's camera model dependent, but give it a try.

eye=artAuthor
Known Participant
December 4, 2021

Thanks! I tried added order with no results. I'm beginning to think it's alphabetical!!!! CR2s before JPGs! 

Todd Shaner
Legend
December 4, 2021

Added Order may determined by the Sort setting in the Import module. Try a new import with Sort = File Type in the Import module settings. Then use Sort = Added Order and Sort = File Type in the Library module. Do either of those sort settings place the JPEG files after the NEFs.

GoldingD
Legend
December 4, 2021

Create a separate folder for RAW, a separate folder for JPEG, move the files.

 

eye=artAuthor
Known Participant
December 4, 2021

Thanks, that's an idea. But I didn't have to do this before. 

Sean McCormack
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 4, 2021

Reverse the sort order in the Toolbar. A-Z to Z-A. 

Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.
eye=artAuthor
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December 4, 2021

Thanks but reversing the order does not work. It just means Ascending or Descending. What it does is place the last photo shot first. That's not what I want. I want the Ascending order (first to last) but all the NEFs first.

When I go to previous imported folders, that's exactly what I see. But I can't replicate it.

Has LR changed something?

Sean McCormack
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 4, 2021

Nope.. You do have the File Type option on in Toolbar?

 

 

Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.
F. McLion
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 4, 2021

Sorry that I don't have a direct answer for you.

Are you shooting RAW+JPG and importing with the setting to treat as separate photos?

Out of curiosity, what is the reason and purpose for that.

 

Which version exactly are you using, as there is no such thing as LrC 2021.

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eye=artAuthor
Known Participant
December 4, 2021

Thanks, it's LR Classic 10.4.

Yes, shooting RAW+JPG, I guess as separate photos. Set it up a long time ago.

My reason is I only edit the NEFs. The JPGs are there for extra insurance. So I want the NEFs showing up first for editing. I used to be able to do this but maybe LR changed this?

Community Expert
December 4, 2021

I don't think LrC has the sorting option you are looking for, but some comments anyway (just my own 2c):

If you "only edit the NEFs" then having the JPGs alongside these NEFs as separate images, is apparently more of a hindrance than a help to you. That is AFAICT the issue you are seeking to relieve - you are looking to push these JPGs more "out of the way".

 

One way is to simply filter the folder view, or collection view. to show only Raw image type. Or, if you also have got external editing files present (TIFF or PSD) to do a more complicated filter which shows those types plus NEFs but hides JPGs. This sort of thing can be saved as one or more named view filters, easily recalled for a given context using the drop-down at right end of the Filmstrip - without needing to go into Library module for the filter bar there.

 

Another way is to nest each JPG under its corresponding NEF using stacking. Laborious. The single advantage I can thing of for this option, would be if you sometimes wanted to work with the NEF and other times wanted to work with the JPG, and wanted both to be available for every image in a way that let you switch which one was presented and which one was hidden (when all stacks collapsed). But you've stated you ONLY edit the NEFs so probably not of interest.

 

So my question is, what does "extra insurance" mean for you, and how would that actually manifest in practice? Provided you have got that JPG physically on disk alongside the NEF, then the needed raw - well, non-raw - material exists to allow you to claim on that insurance. Usually we'll wait until our car gets stolen before submitting a claim for a replacement, though. We are always keen to ensure we could make such a claim, but we don't need to see that as-yet-unused replacement car always parked in our driveway. It would just get in our way for the meanwhile.

 

So one answer could be, make your import such that you only see the NEF routinely - and your "insurance claim" would then consist of, exceptionally, making a particular JPG become separately viewable and editable inside LrC then.

 

Two scenarios: you have got LrC option to [treat JPGs as a separate image] checked, but originally excluded these JPGs from import (while still ensuring they were present on disk) - your insurance claim is to just import the needed JPGs later as needed.

 

Or more conveniently, you have that [separate] option un-checked - producing a single "Raw+JPG" editable photo within the Catalog. This process ensures the JPG file physically accompanies that NEF file at import and also if the latter is ever later renamed or moved to another folder. Deleting would delete both, but that is what file backup is for!

 

You can promote a chosen NEF's "silent" JPG sidecar to a separate Catalog image in its own right either by switching LrC's setting over and selectively re-importing just that JPG - or else by leaving the setting as-is and changing that JPG's filename on disk (using OS file browser) in some way that makes LrC then no longer regard it as a "silent" sidecar for purposes of a new selective import. The Raw+JPG pairing only happens when both files are identically named apart from their file type extension.