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September 19, 2017
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Importing fujifilm GFX files - missing files

  • September 19, 2017
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I've had my GFX for about three weeks and am still getting the feel of it. I have been a X-T1 and X-T2 user for several years. I import my images into Lightroom. I've noticed that when I import my GFX images, JPG and RAF, some of my JPGs do not import but the RAF file is doubled. For example a file named _DSF0271.raf will get imported also as _DSF0271-2.raf. The JPG will not get imported. This does not happen on all imports. The last import consisted of 48 files. They were a combination of RAF and JPG files but 12 files were shown with the -2.raf. The corresponding JPG file was not imported. When I tried to import that same card into Lightroom, a second time, the correct JPG files were imported.  My camera is set to writing RAF and JPG files to the same SD card.

This seems like it a Lightroom problem as the SD card shows the correct files.  Anyone having the same issue?

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    lrl117Author
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    January 16, 2018

    I have some good news.  I no longer am having this problem.  My Macbook Pro was running operating system 10.11.6.  I tried to import mixed raf and jpeg files and continued to have the problem as of yesterday morning.  I took a look at my wife's Macbook pro which is a very new version and noticed that she was running 10.12.6.  I tried to import the mixed files on her computer and I did not have any problem.  I then updated my computer to 10.12.6 and tried to import the mixed files.  All the files imported fine.  I tried a couple of additional test imports and all was fine.

    I spoke to my brother who is a Mac consultant and he said that the update should not have affected these imports.  He asked if I was burning some incense or some other form of whatever.  He said that maybe Apple had done something else but could not explain why it is not working ok.

    Anyway, problem seems to be solved.  No thanks to Adobe but perhaps Apple did something.

    lrl117Author
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    January 16, 2018

    Correction of my typo.  I wrote "He said that maybe Apple had done something else but could not explain why it is not working ok."

    Should be "why it is now working correctly"

    lrl117Author
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    January 12, 2018

    Just wanted to advise that as of 1/12/2018, Adobe has not fixed this issue of duplicate RAW files and missing JPEG files being uploaded from a memory card.  Not only that but Adobe has not even acknowledged that this problem exists and has not made any outreach to me to try and pinpoint the details.  I've been a Lightroom user since V1 and it is hard to believe that Adobe has been so successful with such terrible customer service.

    john beardsworth
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    Community Expert
    January 13, 2018

    Probably because not a lot of people have responded to your initial question "Anyone having the same issue?".

    I haven't seen a hint of this problem despite importing large numbers of XT2 files (raf+jpeg on the same card, MacBook Air built-in reader). Because of my X-LR film simulation plugin I am in contact with a lot of Fuji users and people take the opportunity to ask me all sorts of things, but never this. So after reviewing this thread, I would suggest there may be something wrong with the internal Mac SD slot.

    Unless I overlooked something, you didn't answer my question about whether you are renaming during import. Also, is there a possibility that files from two cameras are being imported into the same folder, and _DSF0271.raf from one camera is clashing with another?

    lrl117Author
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    January 13, 2018

    John, thanks for your input.  I do follow your blog.

    Please look at my 9/27/2017 post on this forum.  It summarizes many of the things that I have tried.  You can also see, in earlier posts some other people, with different camera brands having the same problem.  It seems that just a small amount of people are experiencing this so it might have something to do with they type of hardware that we are using.  For me, I am using a Macbook Pro, early 2013, 16 gb ram, running 10.11.6.  I normally use an internal SD slot but have also experienced the same issue using an external card reader.  I think that eliminates the thought that the internal card slot could be the problem.  It imports fine if just RAW.  The problem only exists with Raw + Jpeg files being imported on the same card.

    I am not renaming during import.  All the files that are being imported are coming from the same camera.

    My brother who is a Mac and Windows consultant has also tried to figure this out without success.

    I took some screen shots of a recent import which shows the problem.  How can I send you those images.  I think it is important that you see them.  Thanks again for your getting involved with this.  Maybe we'll get this figured out.

    lrl117Author
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    November 24, 2017

    Classic did not fix the issue as I had originally thought.  Adobe still has this bug and they continue to be silent.  This has been an ongoing issue for months.

    Just Shoot Me
    Legend
    November 24, 2017

    Why not, since that camera has 2 memory slots, record only RAW files on one card and JPGs on the other? That is what I do with my X-T2.

    lrl117Author
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    November 24, 2017

    That is a decent workaround, although more time consuming.  Another is downloading the files, then deleting all except one and then downloading again.

    Issue is that Adobe should fix this and acknowledge the problem.  We paid for software that is supposed to work properly and after all of these months, Adobe is doing nothing (at least that we know about).

    lrl117Author
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    October 30, 2017

    As of 10/28/2017 the problem still exists.  At least for me and probably those others who have also been experiencing this issue.  If you shoot raw and jpeg and import both files into Lightroom, some of the jpegs will not get imported and for those jpegs that are not imported you will get a duplicate raw file with a -2 at the end of the file name.  Adobe continues to remain silent and is offering no assistance whatsoever.  Terrible customer service.  I have updated to the latest Lightroom version 2015.12.  No difference.

    The work around is to import your files and then delete all but one in lightroom.  Then import all of them again and it will work properly.

    lrl117Author
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    November 18, 2017

    I recently updated to Lightroom Classic.  I am pleased to report that the importing problem, described in this discussion, seems to now be solved.  Would have been nice if Adobe had told us but that does not seem to be their style.

    Anyway problem solved.

    lrl117Author
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    September 27, 2017

    Time to update this situation.  I have done extensive testing with the help of my brother Barry, who is a Mac / Windows consultant and a Lightroom user.  If anyone needs to contact him his email is:  themacguy@themacguy.info

    Enough of the free advertising for him, now I want to provide a summary of the issue.  This issue is not limited to Fujifilm cameras but there have been complaints from Nikon, Canon, Olympus and other users. The one thing that seems consistent is that it is coming from Mac users.  That may change as more people learn about this issue.

    Here’s what happens:

    Using Adobe Lightroom, when importing raw and jpeg files, from the same card, some jpeg files disappear during the import and they appear as a raw file with a -2 at the end of the name. They also become a raw file.  So the jpeg file is gone from Lightroom and you end up with another raw file which is a duplicate.

    Trying to track this down became difficult because of inconsistency in results.  I think that I now have enough information to say that this is an Adobe Lightroom problem.  Whether an Apple update may have contributed is beyond my pay grade. I’ll leave that to Adobe.

    I’ve got pages of notes and hours of testing. 

    It does not seem to matter whether you use a SDHC or the newer SDHX card, or different brands of SD cards or a GFX50S or an X-T2.  I experimented with images from both.

    When you open Lightroom and do the first import of that card, you get the problem of missing jpegs and duplicate raf files.  If you delete and remove the images that you just imported from Lightroom, and import the card again, while Lightroom is still running, all the files import ok.

    If you delete and remove the images and then quit Lightroom and then open Lightroom and import that were previously imported (and removed), you will get the same problem of the missing jpegs and duplicate raf files.

    It also appears that if you start Lightroom and import images from a card and experience the problem with the jpeg and raw files and then insert a new card with new images, and import those into Lightroom, you will get the same problems on the new import.

    Other tests were done using the internal Mac SD card reader, an external reader plugged into a USB port and copying and pasting files from the SD card to the Mac hard drive.  The same results were obtained.

    When looking at other Adobe forums, it seems that this problem has been around for at least one year. I am hoping that the Adobe experts will use some of my results to figure out what is going on and get it corrected.

    A temporary work around could be to import your jpegs and raws to separate drives (assuming you have two cards in your camera).  Another could be to start the import until the preview is finished.  Then just select one file to import.  Then delete that file from Lightroom and reimport all the files on that card.  It seems that if Lightroom sees the images once, the second time will go ok.

    Let me know if you have questions or can provide more input.

    lrl117Author
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    September 25, 2017

    In my previous post, I neglected to mention that it is not just a GFX problem, as I initially thought.  It is also happening with my X-T2.

    lrl117Author
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    September 25, 2017

    I've posted some new comments on the forum   Importing RAW plus JPG problem | Photoshop Family Customer Community.

    I also am following it.  You might want to also if you are still having this problem.

    lrl117Author
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    September 24, 2017

    I did a search in the link that dj_paige provided.  I found the identical problem being described.  The title is "importing raw plus jpg problem"

    The link is:   Importing RAW plus JPG problem | Photoshop Family Customer Community

    I posted explaining that I also have this problem.  I don't see any solution or recommendation provided by Adobe.  I normally have found Adobe very silent until the internet explodes with the problem.

    lrl117Author
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    September 24, 2017

    Went out today and took 26 images (13 raw and 13 jpeg) today with my GFX50s.  Came back and imported them with the external card reader.  The import preview showed all ok.  Imported into LR and  3 or the 13 jpegs showed as a -2 raf file.

    Removed all the files and tried the exact same thing again.  The import preview showed ok.  The actual import showed all ok.

    Now what?  Probably would help if Adobe could advise if they have seen this kind of thing before and where they feel the problem is.

    dj_paige
    Legend
    September 24, 2017

    You need to file a bug report with Adobe at Photoshop Lightroom | Photoshop Family Customer Community

    lrl117Author
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    September 24, 2017

    Starting to get confused.  I imported some files from my fujifilm X-T2 using the sd slot in my macbook pro.  All the files on the SD card showed correctly in the mac finder.  During the import preview in lightroom cc, all the files showed properly.  After import, I had several jpeg files not importing and in those cases the corresponding raw file (raf) showed a duplicate file.  A '-2' was added to the raw file name.

    I removed the files from my mac via lightroom (removed from catalog and from disk).  I then imported the same sd card via a card reader and everything worked fine.

    I removed the files and reimported the card via the slot in my macbook pro.  All files imported fine.

    I removed the files and reimported the card again via the slot in my macbook pro.  All files imported fine.

    So I can see that the problem is not related to the GFX as the same issues are happened on my X-T2 files.  Importing via the card reader seems to consistently show proper results.

    Importing via my macbook pro sd slot has shown inconsistent results.

    Question is why does the finder show that the files are fine on the SD card, when the card is plugged into the Mac sd slot?

    Just Shoot Me
    Legend
    September 24, 2017

    It seems the problems you are having happen when you either connect the camera directly to the computer or use the built in card reader and have no problems when using a separate external card reader.

    So stop connecting the camera and stop using the built in card reader.

    lrl117Author
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    September 24, 2017

    Actually, the problem does not exist when the camera is connected to the computer and the download is done.  It also does not exist when I use an external card reader.  It seems to only exist, but not consistently, when using the internal Mac SD slot.

    This was not known when I started this post as I have only been using the Mac SD slot, for importing, for several years.

    I am now thinking it is a hardware problem related to the SD slot in the Mac and will try to get that verified and fixed.  If I get more information, I will advise.