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Ok, I get your point, and indeed LrC is the Adobe most professionnal photo tool.
So why does Adobe make no effort to polish this old and cumbersome interface (this "classic" vibe)?
By @ralphlouzon
Maybe because most professional photographers using Lightroom Classic might not care so much about a 'polished' interface. They prefer that Adobe uses developer time for something more useful than eye candy.
Again, I agree that much of the UI could be revisited and refined. However…
- the curve tool is much to small to be accurate and you can't expand it (even in expanding the right panel)
By @ralphlouzon
This is not an effective example when you also consider Photoshop, where users have complained about the Curves resize limit in that application for many years. Was that evidence of Photoshop discontinuation? No. Do you know when they finally allowed a larger Curves adjustment layer graph in Photoshop? Two months ago.
It took Adobe 35 years to change that in Photoshop, so just because Curves is too small in Lightroom Classic isn’t evidence that it’s about to be discontinued. It might just be many more years before it’s fixed in Lightroom Classic. 🙂
Also, full curve point accuracy is already possible. You can set a selected point to any of the 255 levels by selecting the Input or Output field and nudging the value by 1 level using the up/down arrow keys. I often do this in both Photoshop and Lightroom Classic because point nudging is much easier to precisely control than dragging. The main advantage in Photoshop is that you can nudge the selected point without highlighting the number field, but setting a point to any of the 255 available levels can still be done in both applications.
- not enough modularity: I would be happy to get rid of some modules (Slideshow, Web, Print...) if there is less memory pressure as a result.
By @ralphlouzon
You can disable any of those modules by right-clicking its heading and unchecking it in the menu.
If you do not use those modules, I have a very strong suspicion that they are not contributing to any memory pressure problems you may be having. These applications typically cache code into memory in a very dynamic way based on demand, so if you never use those modules, chances are they’re not even getting loaded.
If you are seeing a recent dramatic increase in memory pressure when using Lightroom Classic on a Mac, chances are it’s because of the latest features, not the oldest ones. I have also noticed more memory usage, and I think it might be more related to increased use of the GPU for newer features such as AI masks, Adaptive profiles, new Remove tool functions, and the new GPU acceleration for previews. On a Mac, GPU memory comes out of Unified Memory.
But you know what, that’s part of modernizing the code. So if higher memory usage is related to higher GPU memory usage, then that would have happened anyway as part of modernization. Competing apps that take full advantage of the GPU should see a similar increase in memory usage, especially for newer AI-related features.
- I hate the fact the the slightest move at the top of my Apple mouse makes a huge and unvoluntary scroll among the images in the Library, and no option to deactivate that in Lightroom.
By @ralphlouzon
That may be peculiarity of the Apple mouse, especially if it’s a Magic Mouse with the touch surface on top.
I have various mice, Apple trackpads, a control surface with dials, and a graphics tablet, and none of them have that problem in the Grid view.
People bring up this “Adobe is about to discontinue Classic” from time to time, but there is still too much evidence against it. Two big examples:
Lightroom Classic continues to get new, advanced features at the same time as or soon after Camera Raw, features which still are not in cloud Lightroom. They are still adding relatively minor useful Classic-only features, including convenience features, that they wouldn’t bother paying programmers to write if they were going to discontinue Classic soon.
Lightroom Classic continues to get rewrites to its underlying code, like the recent addition of GPU acceleration for generating previews that sped that up by a lot. They would not invest in fundamental performance if they were planing to discontinue Classic. There are several other areas of Classic, such as Export, that also run faster than they did a few years ago because of optimizations such as GPU acceleration.
Adobe does price and market in ways that encourages cloud Lightroom, that’s true. But they continue to invest resources in Classic in ways that might suggest that they discovered that they might lose too many users if they dropped Classic.
By @ralphlouzon
- the interface of LrC is obsolete! LrC gets new features regularly but it is the only Adobe software with such and old and unergonomic UI. Why?
Only the interface is obsolete, and a lot of people would agree with that. But the underlying code is continually being modernized for performance and compatibility, which again companies are not known to do for applications on the chopping block. In some ways, such as keyboard shortcut support, I think Classic is more ergonomic. Cloud Lightroom makes me use my mouse too much.
Also, you can't think an application is about to be discontinued because of an old-looking interface. The basic UI design of Photoshop still looks a lot like it did when first released in 1990, 35 years ago, but you aren’t going to say Photoshop is about to be discontinued. Same with Illustrator and InDesign.
See the attached for your info, what's in a word.
I have used the application since it's inception in Feb 2007, and continue to do so.
There have been significant improvements from LrC 12 through 13, 14 and now 15 into the AI world,
Enjoy the rest of the evening.
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