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Is Lightroom Classic crashing Mac OS when moving folders via SMB?

Explorer ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

Not sure if this is a Lightroom Classic bug or OS, but running Lightroom Classic 14.3.1 (It's happened with earlier versions too) on Mac OS Sequoia 15.4.1)

I usually ingest my photos to my Macbook M1, and edit there - then when the edit is complete and I've uploaded them to my website ready for my clients, it's time for me to move the photos to my archive, on a QNAP NAS, via Thunderbolt and the SMB protocol..  

The problem is that there have been a number of times now when I click the folder in the library 'Folders' pane, dragging it to the relevant folder (still within Lightroom Classic Folders pane, but to the network drive), it'll start moving the files - then the Macbook reboots..  no warnings, just kernal panic and restarts, then says it restarted because of an error.  I'll paste the error report below - but just to add, it only happens when moving the folder within Lightroom Classic..  using Finder, I've never had this restart the computer... I'd prefer to keep doing it via Lightroom Classic as it moves all the files and folders that I haven't imported into the Lightroom Classic catalogue, but doesn't require me to go through the 'locate folder' when moving contents via the filesystem.

Error log below:

 

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xfffffe0015d13748): assertion failed: tp->sackhint.sack_bytes_acked >= 0, file: /AppleInternal/Library/BuildRoots/e6fae4ac-15bb-11f0-b496-a69e7091fce2/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/bsd/netinet/tcp_output.c, line: 569 @uipc_socket.c:8235
Debugger message: panic
Memory ID: 0x6
OS release type: User
OS version: 24E263
Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 24.4.0: Fri Apr 11 18:33:47 PDT 2025; root:xnu-11417.101.15~117/RELEASE_ARM64_T6000
Fileset Kernelcache UUID: EA5187F73FD900E89F9964B11A9F1750
Kernel UUID: 55CA421C-CE3C-3AFF-A895-8D2350930BD0
Boot session UUID: BF5D7CEE-6D1D-463B-B595-185B1BF30451
iBoot version: iBoot-11881.101.1
iBoot Stage 2 version: iBoot-11881.101.1
secure boot?: YES
roots installed: 0
Paniclog version: 14
KernelCache slide: 0x000000000cc6c000
KernelCache base:  0xfffffe0013c70000
Kernel slide:      0x000000000cc74000
Kernel text base:  0xfffffe0013c78000
Kernel text exec slide: 0x000000000e404000
Kernel text exec base:  0xfffffe0015408000
mach_absolute_time: 0x1daf81dafa
Epoch Time:        sec       usec
  Boot    : 0x681cb210 0x000504f4
  Sleep   : 0x00000000 0x00000000
  Wake    : 0x00000000 0x00000000
  Calendar: 0x681cc6ca 0x0003532c
 
Zone info:
  Zone map: 0xfffffe1020000000 - 0xfffffe3620000000
  . VM    : 0xfffffe1020000000 - 0xfffffe15ec000000
  . RO    : 0xfffffe15ec000000 - 0xfffffe1886000000
  . GEN0  : 0xfffffe1886000000 - 0xfffffe1e52000000
  . GEN1  : 0xfffffe1e52000000 - 0xfffffe241e000000
  . GEN2  : 0xfffffe241e000000 - 0xfffffe29ea000000
  . GEN3  : 0xfffffe29ea000000 - 0xfffffe2fb6000000
  . DATA  : 0xfffffe2fb6000000 - 0xfffffe3620000000
  Metadata: 0xfffffe5d5c010000 - 0xfffffe5d65810000
  Bitmaps : 0xfffffe5d65810000 - 0xfffffe5d714e4000
  Extra   : 0 - 0
 
TPIDRx_ELy = {1: 0xfffffe1e54bcafb0  0: 0x0000000000000000  0ro: 0x0000000000000000 }
CORE 0 PVH locks held: None
CORE 1 PVH locks held: None
CORE 2 PVH locks held: None
CORE 3 PVH locks held: None
CORE 4 PVH locks held: None
CORE 5 PVH locks held: None
CORE 6 PVH locks held: None
CORE 7 PVH locks held: None
CORE 8 PVH locks held: None
CORE 9 PVH locks held: None
CORE 0 is the one that panicked. Check the full backtrace for details.
CORE 1: PC=0x000000019c9b43bc, LR=0x000000019c9b43bc, FP=0x000000016f67ab60
CORE 2: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb650bcfed0
CORE 3: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb6501dbed0
CORE 4: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb650e1fed0
CORE 5: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb64f447ed0
CORE 6: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb650c23ed0
CORE 7: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb650d8bed0
CORE 8: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb6509dbed0
CORE 9: PC=0xfffffe00154a4f28, LR=0xfffffe00154a4f28, FP=0xfffffeb64e9d3ed0
Compressor Info: 0% of compressed pages limit (OK) and 0% of segments limit (OK) with 0 swapfiles and OK swap space
Panicked task 0xfffffe231dff2448: 0 pages, 795 threads: pid 0: kernel_task
Panicked thread: 0xfffffe1e54bcafb0, backtrace: 0xfffffeb65021a9c0, tid: 2832
 lr: 0xfffffe00154672c8  fp: 0xfffffeb65021aa50
 lr: 0xfffffe00155c85fc  fp: 0xfffffeb65021aac0
 lr: 0xfffffe00155c6858  fp: 0xfffffeb65021ab80
 lr: 0xfffffe001540fb98  fp: 0xfffffeb65021ab90
 lr: 0xfffffe0015466bac  fp: 0xfffffeb65021af60
 lr: 0xfffffe0015d06cd4  fp: 0xfffffeb65021af80
 lr: 0xfffffe0015d13748  fp: 0xfffffeb65021afc0
 lr: 0xfffffe001586c214  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b010
 lr: 0xfffffe0015869644  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b040
 lr: 0xfffffe0015865d90  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b3f0
 lr: 0xfffffe001584b698  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b440
 lr: 0xfffffe001584e044  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b4d0
 lr: 0xfffffe001584c374  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b750
 lr: 0xfffffe0015757304  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b780
 lr: 0xfffffe001570a280  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b7f0
 lr: 0xfffffe0015702f98  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b820
 lr: 0xfffffe0015702a58  fp: 0xfffffeb65021b990
 lr: 0xfffffe00156dcccc  fp: 0xfffffeb65021bc10
 lr: 0xfffffe00156e2918  fp: 0xfffffeb65021bd40
 lr: 0xfffffe0015701bac  fp: 0xfffffeb65021beb0
 lr: 0xfffffe00157033a8  fp: 0xfffffeb65021bf20
 lr: 0xfffffe0015418f04  fp: 0x0000000000000000
 
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Adobe Employee ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

I routinely move folders both within an SMB NAS share on Mac OS and from the local HD to the NAS share. I have never seen any issues. 

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LEGEND ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

Not really fair to compare moves within LrC to moves in Finder. Moves within LrC cause many writes to the catalog file, so different things are happening; moves within Finder do not have to write to the LrC catalog file.

 

It is my understanding that kernel panic are caused by bad drivers or by hardware malfunction. So, perhaps the log file indicates what is malfuctioning, but is is beyond my ability to decipher the log file.

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Explorer ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

I'm merely pointing out that moving the same folders in finder rather than Lightroom Classic has not caused a kernal panic yet.
That's not to say it's Lightroom Classic causing it, and I do say in my original post that I'm not sure if it's Lightroom Classic or the OS - but the fact it has only happened when moving folders within Lightroom Classic itself and not when moving massive folders or files using Finder gives me the impression it may have something to do with what Lightroom Classic is doing at the same time...   

It could of course be some other software on the system which interferes with Lightroom Classic - so I'm not pointing any fingers as I do know other software could make it look like Lightroom Classic is the cause when it isn't.

It would be remiss of me to not post about it though, in case someone else has experienced it too and could offer a solution. 

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LEGEND ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

May I make a suggestion? Let's refer to Lightroom Classic as Lightroom Classic or LrC, and not as "Lightroom" and not as Lr. Clarity is a good thing.

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Explorer ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

I've edited the posts to refer to it as Lightroom Classic. 

It took me a while to stop calling it RawShooter, but there you go. 

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LEGEND ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025

When the operating system crashes, it is always a bug in the operating system (which includes drivers for devices).  By definition, an app should never be able to crash the operating system, even if the app is doing something wrong.

 

Apple and Microsoft take such crashes seriously, because they often indicate possible security vulnerabilities. When the Mac rebooted, did you have the opportunity to submit the crash report to Apple, and if so, did you?

 

You might contact QNAP. External NAS devices should never be able to crash the operating system, and if they do, that's similarly by definition a bug in the operating system. However, QNAP might have a more vested interest in getting Apple to pay attention and likely have more direct channels into Apple's development process.

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Explorer ,
May 08, 2025 May 08, 2025
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I did submit the crash report to Apple, and gave details on the steps involved prior to the crash.

 

I'll get in touch with QNAP support too to see if they're aware of anything. 

 

Thanks John.

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