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AkiraLope
AkiraLope
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June 7, 2017
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JPG export color is over saturated

  • June 7, 2017
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Hello all,

In Lightroom, when I export JPGs from NEFs I shot on a Nikon D750, the color is more saturated. Even when I import the JPG in Premiere, it still looks over-saturated.


Similarly, in Lightroom if I click "Edit in > Photoshop", the colors look more muted in Photoshop. However, if I save a JPG from Photoshop without changing anything, I get the exact same over-saturated image. Photoshop color settings are set to NA General Purpose 2, and proof is Monitor Color.  I'm using Windows 10 if that makes a difference.

Any ideas? Thanks so much!

Gallery showing the issues: http://imgur.com/a/cFUf9

Andrew

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    Correct answer AkiraLope

    Oddly, after much testing I found a work around that is probably related to understanding the overall issue. If I export the jpg with the AdobeRGB(1998) color space then it looks exactly the same in Adobe Premiere as it did in Lightroom. ProPhoto and sRGB both resulted in the usual over-saturated look. For now this works for me since my end goal is to use the photos in videos anyway.

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    D Fosse
    Community Expert
    D FosseCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    June 7, 2017

    Yes, that's what I'm saying. Using a wide gamut display in non-color managed environments (like Premiere Pro, Windows "Photos", etc etc) simply won't work.

    My point was that customers should be aware of this before purchasing, or rather, be made aware. Vendors should take much more responsibility here, instead of just pushing these units to unsuspecting users. Dell is a case in point (yes, I've seen their marketing). Eizo can probably be excused, as their customers presumably know what they're getting into.

      AkiraLope
      AkiraLopeAuthor
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      June 14, 2017

      I'm using a BenW SW2700pt. I was aware before purchasing what I was getting, but perhaps am not using it correctly. When editing photos in Lightroom which will be used in Premiere, and also when editing in Premiere, I always keep the monitor in Rec709 mode. Is this a mistake? When I turn on simulate no color management in Photoshop it looks dull and washed out which is opposite to the over-saturated issue I've been having when viewing the photos in Premiere. Thanks for all the insight.

      johnrellis
      johnrellis
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      June 14, 2017

      When editing photos in Lightroom which will be used in Premiere, and also when editing in Premiere, I always keep the monitor in Rec709 mode.

      When you're running the display in Rec 709 mode, you need to ensure that you've assigned an ICC profile to the display in Windows that corresponds to Rec 709 mode.   If you don't do that, then LR and Photoshop won't correctly display colors in that mode.

      To produce that ICC profile, just use your calibrator to produce a profile when the display is in Rec 709 mode.

      AkiraLope
      AkiraLopeAuthorCorrect answer
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      June 7, 2017

      Oddly, after much testing I found a work around that is probably related to understanding the overall issue. If I export the jpg with the AdobeRGB(1998) color space then it looks exactly the same in Adobe Premiere as it did in Lightroom. ProPhoto and sRGB both resulted in the usual over-saturated look. For now this works for me since my end goal is to use the photos in videos anyway.

      D Fosse
      Community Expert
      D FosseCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      June 7, 2017

      It sounds like you are using a wide gamut display. What make and model?

      A wide gamut display can only be used in a fully color managed environment. It must be properly calibrated and profiled so that color managed applications have a valid display profile to work with.

      This is the deal you implicitly accept when purchasing these units.

      Don't proof to Monitor RGB, turn it off and keep it off. What that does is to simulate no color management in Photoshop.

        Rob_Cullen
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        Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
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        June 7, 2017

        Are you exporting  JPG from Lightroom with the sRGB profile?

        Are you saving a JPG from Photoshop with sRGB profile?

        Should you instead be 'proofing' the image in Photoshop with the "Internet Standard RGB sRGB" profile? Maybe so- I would think using the 'Monitor profile' is only of use when calibrating your monitor.

        The Windows "Photos App" is apparently not color managed, so its colors are unpredictable.

        For some more knowledgeable information you might read articles by Andrew Rodney  (aka Digital Dog)

        Digital Dog :: Main

        And some discussion at dpreview-

        Why do my colours look so different in Windows Photo Viewer?: Retouching Forum: Digital Photography Review

        Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.3, Photoshop 27.5, ACR 18.3, Lightroom 9.3, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0.3 .
          AkiraLope
          AkiraLopeAuthor
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          June 7, 2017

          Thanks much! I hadn't thought of that. However when I use sRGB proof the difference is even more pronounced: http://i.imgur.com/Ysjq1Fm.jpg

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