P: Gen Remove now changes elements outside the painted mask

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

The update to the Generative Remove AI model in Lightroom Classic 14.5 has ruined it, as it now changes elements outside the painted mask, making it more or less unusable in many situations.

[johnrellis]

@angela_1815: "...after 14.5 update...having to constantly "update" masks."

That's a separate issue unrelated to the problem in this thread. Many others have experienced the problem:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-ai-masks-require-updating-and-or-disa... 

I recommend that you follow that thread for updates. Most of the people reporting issues there use the third-party Imagen AI service, which is most likely the culprit. Do you use Imagen AI?

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Thomas Steen Petersen 

I see you posted some JPEG examples. 

The Camera Raw team is requesting a few original files of those that are exhibiting the issue. Can you supply these?
If so, please share them via Dropbox or similar and share the link with me. 

Thank you!

[Catherine_Nadeau7393]

Hello everyone,

Since the latest Lightroom update, I’ve been experiencing serious issues with the Generative AI healing tool. It used to work flawlessly, but now the results are very poor compared to before, even though the update was supposed to make the tool more powerful.

For example, when I try to remove a small acne spot while keeping the natural skin texture, the tool modifies a much larger area than the one I selected and produces unnatural results.

This happens both on my computer and on my mobile device (I use Lightroom Cloud). Has anyone else noticed the same behavior?

I’d also like to know if it’s possible to revert to the previous version of Lightroom, because this tool is absolutely essential for my workflow.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice!

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography
The originals used as examples were shot as JPEG files. I’ll be happy to upload those, but if you prefer RAW files for the Camera Raw team, I’ll need to create some new examples based on pictures shot in RAW. Please let me know what you prefer.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Thomas Steen Petersen the original JPEG Captures would be preferable. If possible, Export them as DNGs with the edits also. Just a couple of examples are necessary. 

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

Ok, I’ll send them as DNG. It’s quite late in my time zone now, so I’ll do it tomorrow. I hope that works for you.

Br. Thomas

[Katie!]

I just updated to 14.5 and am frustrated by this issue, too. Especially since I do weddings/portraits, and when I select only what I want removed in the background, the updated ai remove tool now changes areas outside of the selected area, which often is part of someone's face/hair. Which may seem small, but are noticable on big moments and people's faces. (I tried to find an example where it did a worse job on a remove, but had already edited over it, so can't show it.) I'm about to switch to an old Lightroom version because it used to be so much more accurate, and this version is slowing me down.

Selected area to remove:

One option it gave me, where it changes her ear and hair shape up top outside of the selected area:

And another option it gave me, where it altered her hair under her ear and squished her ear:

Another example: Here's the before: (notice her hair shape)

I did multiple selections for ai removal, and here are the results it gave me:

Looking back at the selected areas of the items removed, neither of them touched her original hair, and should not have affected her hair.

[Mauricio32576327jgu8]

The generative remove feature not only has been getting worse ( i feel) but its trying to remove parts of an image that lie outside the parameters of what i selected. Can this be addressed? 

Lightroom V8.5 

Windows 11 

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 
I have sent you a download link to some examples in a PM. Please confirm that you have received them.

[angela_1815]

Well, I have been waiting for a fix to the Generative AI removal since the last update (14.5), and it is still not fixed with 14.5.1.

VERY disappointed.

Still grabbing area outside selected area (like changing an eye that wasn't in the selecttion but near it) and  removing the selcted object but alson making the skin under the removed item (hair) noticeably lighter.  It worked perfectly before the update before 14.5.1!! Just put it back like it was. 

[Noel Orridge]

Hi @angela_1815! Thank you for reaching out! At its current stage, Gen AI is about enhancing creativity and productivity. But like any tool, it works best when paired with human oversight. Here are some tips to get the most out of Gen AI in LrC:

1) Include shadows in your mask: Select the entire object, including its shadow, to help the AI understand the context better.

2) Use Object Aware mode: This refines the mask automatically and helps preserve surrounding tones.
3) Use Heal or Clone for small areas: Traditional tools offer more control for subtle edits, such as stray hairs on skin.
4) Apply Generative Remove before cropping or masking: Cropped or masked areas can confuse the AI

Please check out these Helpx articles for more information on Generative Remove in Lightroom Classic:

Generative Remove - Best Practices and FAQs

Remove Distractions with Lightroom Classic's Remove Tool

Cheers!

[angela_1815]

I didn't have to use any tips before the 14.5 and 14.5.1 updates. It worked fine before the updates. 

[DramaticPhotographic]

This is also happening to me since 14.5.

I have a very clear example where changes are made significantly outside of the mask.

Original imageblue mask - NOT touching the watchResult - very distorted watch

[Annahtt]

Cara o que fizeram com o Lightroom???? 
Utilizo(ou utilizava) ele quase que as 24horas inteiras do meu dia, na opção de remoção. Conseguiram estragar a melhor ferramenta do lightroom! Se você remove algo, DEFORMA TUDO AO REDOR. Antes ele removia e melhorava 100% tudo, ficando impecável... agora é impossível de usar, deforma tudo, e não regenera mais nada! Super decepcionada... vou ter que procurar outra ferramenta que atende! Cancelando logo o plano!

[Catherine_Nadeau7393]

PLEASE ADOBE, BRING BACK GENERATIVE AI THE WAY IT WAS! THIS MAKES NO SENSE. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO EVOLVE, NOT DEGRADE YOUR SERVICES. DOESN’T ANYONE SEE HOW TERRIBLE THIS IS? DO WE NEED TO START A PETITION? 🤔😭 

[Anshul_Saini]

Hi @Annahtt,

I’m sorry to hear about your experience with the Remove tool. I understand how frustrating it must feel when it’s part of your daily workflow.

To help us investigate further, could you please:
 • Share a short screen recording of your workflow showing how the Remove tool is behaving.
 • Provide your system info from Lightroom (Help > System Info > Copy & paste here).

This will help us see exactly what steps you’re taking and whether the behavior is specific to your setup or version.

Thanks for your patience. I am looking forward to your update so we can dig into this.

Best,

Anshul Saini

[NKPHOTO]

I'm still having issues! The AI feature is basically unusable now unfortunately. 

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

I sent you some examples in a PM as requested. Please confirm that you have received them.

[angela_1815]

It is frustrating and embarrassing when the "cleanup" feature on my iPhone works better than the Gen AI removal tool. 

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Rikk Flohr: Photography 
I sent you some examples in a PM as requested. Could you please confirm that you have received them?

[tom36263209cmc4]

The new remove tool is simply unusable, it edits outside of the selected area and creates awful low quality results, artifacts, and weird mosaic pattern.

Photoshop is just as bad

[krishna.singh]

Hi @Thomas Steen Petersen 

Rikk is on PTO and will be back by 8/31. Meanwhile, can you share the link to me in a PM?

Thanks for your support.

[Moritz Weiss]

 

 

Hello everybody, starting last week, I've been encountering countless issues with the generative AI feature on Lightroom Mobile. Everytime I select certain objects to remove (masking manually), the AI generates outside of my mask. 

That makes it very hard for me as an automotive photographer because removing people behind cars now also changed parts of the car which is unfavourable.

This might be a bug but how can I fix it?

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@Noel Orridge 

Sorry, I don’t mean to be rude, but based on your reply to @angela_1815, it seems you may have misunderstood what this thread is about.

The issue is that since Lightroom 14.5.x, the Remove Tool has changed behavior: it often modifies areas outside the selected/marked area. This makes the tool unusable in many situations, because it alters parts of the image that were never intended to be affected. It’s not something that can be resolved by following your well-meant advice.

[Thomas Steen Petersen]

@krishna.singh 

I will send a link to the examples in a PM. Please note I have already sent them to Anshul_Saini, as he also requested them in Rikks absence.