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January 25, 2024
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Lightroom Classic, Macbook Air & High Memory Usage

  • January 25, 2024
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Hello, 

 

For the past couple of months I've been ignoring a warning that CleanMyMacX has been popping up, telling me that my macbook has high memory usage and I need to do something about it. When I click on this, it tells me the main culprit is Lightroom. 

 

Please can someone talk me through (in simple terms, I'm great at cameras, reasonably competent at computers but rubbish at this bit) what I need to check? I delete lightroom backups every couple of months (I keep 3), and delete previews periodically (I am scrolling back through old photos as I try to tidy old photos). Its a 16GB M2 2022 macbook air, running ventura 13.2.1. I use Lightroom classic release 13.1. I've nothing against updating my macbook, I generally delay updates to avoid it causing any headaches with Lightroom. 

 

Thank you very much, Lyndsey

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Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 26, 2024

Can you post the message that CleanMyMacX shows?

 

Generally, if macOS itself is not complaining about memory, and if you don’t perceive any slowdown, there isn’t an actual problem. Some apps that watch memory don’t properly account for how modern memory management works.

 

Another way to check is to open Activity Monitor (which comes with every Mac, it’s in the Utilities folder), click the Memory tab, and look at Memory Pressure.  If you leave this running as you work, and Memory Pressure is low and always green, there is no problem. If Memory Pressure becomes orange or red, then there is a problem.

Participating Frequently
January 29, 2024

 

Hiya, 

 

This is exact pop up I get. Activity monitor seems to run at yellow all the time, it does drop briefly to green after CleanMyMac does it's thing, then soon returns to yellow. 

 

I'm still struggling to understand whether there is an issue I need to do something about, or whether just to leave it. 

 

My LR catalog is large, could that be causing the issues? 

 

Thanks

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
January 30, 2024

Hi, sorry I haven’t followed up with your earlier replies, been very busy.

 

I do not think the size of the catalog should be the reason. How many photos are in it? Mine has over 150,000 photos and videos at this point, and it isn’t causing unexpected memory problems.

 

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This is exact pop up I get. Activity monitor seems to run at yellow all the time, it does drop briefly to green after CleanMyMac does it's thing, then soon returns to yellow. 

By @lyndseya54518626

 

OK. The CleanMyMac message is expressing concern about “RAM + swap.” I actually question that, because if they are only measuring those two things, that’s an outdated way to evaluate Mac memory usage.

 

Activity Monitor is more informative. Memory Pressure is a holistic look at the three ways that macOS handles memory demands: Physical (installed) memory, compressed memory, and swap memory. I may be wrong but it looks like CleanMyMac is both not accounting for compressed memory (because it doesn’t mention it), and over-weighting free physical memory.

 

Looking at the graph at the bottom of the Memory tab in Activity Monitor:

 

Physical Memory is what’s actually installed. If your Mac has 16GB, that’s the Physical Memory. Now, years ago, if you had 16GB and 15GB was used, utilities like CleanMyMac would warn of “low free RAM.” That was true back then, but today that’s less of a concern because of the ways macOS manages memory. If there is high demand for memory, macOS will next compress the contents of memory, so that for example, 1GB of physical memory is now handling 8GB of compressed memory. This is fine, and works quickly because of how powerful the processors are now. If that starts to get strained, then macOS starts to swap memory to storage, which is where swap comes from. As long as this system can handle the load, Memory Pressure is green.

 

In the Activity Monitor processes list, the Memory column is a total amount an app uses across the three resources, not just physical memory. That’s why it’s possible to see an application to report using more memory than is physically installed in the Mac. It’s possible because some of the memory it’s using is compressed or swapped.

 

If memory demands are very high, that act of juggling data between Physical, Compressed, and Swap can get too complicated. That is when Memory Pressure turns yellow, or even red if it’s really bad.

 

I think a constructive way to think about it is this:

  • If Memory Pressure is yellow, but you don’t see any problems, and if it is green most of the time, things are OK. 
  • If Memory Pressure is yellow fairly often, and you notice slowdowns and crashing, things are not OK and something needs to be addressed. 
  • If Memory Pressure is red, there are likely to be problems even if you don’t notice them yet. 

 

Regarding CleanMyMac:

  • If CleanMyMac’s warnings track pretty consistently with Memory Pressure going high yellow or red, then I suppose the CleanMyMac alert means something. But I wouldn’t assume the worst without also checking the situation in Activity Monitor.  
  • If CleanMyMac’s warnings appear even if Memory Pressure is green, I would conclude CleanMyMac is not using an up-to-date method to monitor Mac memory, which would mean their alerts are not useful. One thing that makes me question CleanMyMac is that low free physical memory and high swap usage do not, by themselves, necessarily indicate an immediate problem. That is why I’m interested in whether CleanMyMac is alerting too soon compared to Activity Monitor. 

 

If there are serious problems directly related to memory, memory can’t be upgraded in a Mac laptop after purchase, so the only route is to get a new one with more memory (and maybe sell the current one to help pay for the replacement, unless the current one is still within the return period). But 16GB in an M2 should be quite usable for Lightroom Classic unless your individual images are very large (like well above 40 megapixels), or if you keep many applications open.

 

The other thing is that there are posts here about people seeing unusual, alarmingly high spikes in Lightroom Classic memory usage that are not expected. If this turns out to be a bug and you’re seeing a form of it, it is possible that’s going to get fixed anyway, in which case you wouldn’t have to do anything. But we’ll have to wait and see on that one.

GoldingD
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January 25, 2024

Some info from your post:

 

  • MACBOOK Air M2 (2022)
  • MACOS Ventrura v13.2.1
  • 16 GB RAM
  • LrC v13.1

 

Some obvious inquiries come to mind. They may not solve anything but....

 

  • Why stuck back at MACOS 13.2.1, as Ventura is now at v13.6.4, numerous bugs would have been fixed, numerous improvements, and very likely improvements in the GPU driver (LrC is very sensitive to the GPU)
  • Why stuck on MACOS Ventura when MACOS Sonoma can be upgrade to on that MAC. Yes, initial their were huge issues LrC vs Sonoma, and Adobe recommends currently that it be v14.2.1 (issues with 12.2.0). Now this one may not provide improvements towards LrC (but I do not know that for a fact)
  • Does LrC crash?
  • If LrC crashes, did you get a crash report (Adobe)?
  • Does the MAC crash?
  • If the MAC crashed, do you get a crash report (Apple)?
  • What drive is the catalog on?
  • How much free space in % on the drive the catalog is on? Looking for at least 20% some say 25%
  • How large do you have the limit for the Camera RAW CACHE set to in /preferences/performance/?
  • In /preferences/performance/ If the Use Graphics Processor is selected as on (Auto or Custom) try it off. Any change?
  • Speaking of that GPU setting, what level of support is stated if you have it selected as on (Auto or Custom, if Custom try clicking on all boxes) Is it Full Acceleration? (just remembered that one, see 2nd link below)

 

Some Discussions to look at:

 

 

And a request (If I do not, then other members will)

 

Please post your System Information as Lightroom Classic (LrC) reports it. In LrC click on Help, then System Info, then Copy. Paste that information into a reply. Please present all information from first line down to and including Plug-in Info. Info after Plug-in info can be cut out as that is just so much dead space to us non-Techs and it takes up vast amounts of scroll space making the reply less readable and less likely that others will bother with your post.

Participating Frequently
January 26, 2024

Thank you.

 

I'm downloading Sonoma now. The reason for not updating so far is Oct - Dec is my crazy season with work so the less that goes wrong in that time the better, therefore I try to change as little as possible.

 

Neither LR or the mac ever crash.

 

The calatlog is on my mac hard drive, the hard drive has 365GB free out of 1TB, I need to have a clear out and try to not to let it drop below 300GB (normally fairly sucessfully). So over 30% is spare. I keep the images I'm editing on my macbook hard drive, then move them to an external drive once editing is done. 

 

Camera RAW cache is set to 20Gb. Use graphics processor is auto, I've switched it off to see what happens. 

 

Will post System Info now

 

Participating Frequently
January 25, 2024

I should have said, I don't notice any problems with lightroom (or any other software) running slowly. I've had the macbook about 12 months, and it's only in the past couple of months I've had this issue. I'm not aware that I've changed anything, but it's quite possible that I have without realising.