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September 8, 2021
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Lightroom classic on two PCs and Synology NAS

Hi to all and please help,

 

I'll wrote current situation and what I wish for but I don't know how.

 

Synology NAS and all the photos on it

Windows 10 PC with Lightroom Classic, Catalog file on it as well the LR presets, setting etc

 

What I want do do:

Synology NAS with photos on it, but with Catalog file as well

Two Windows 10 PCs (PC and laptop) with LR Classic using same catalog file from NAS (not at the same time!) and synced things like work in progress, rating of photos etc. 

 

Extra informations:

- all three devices are on the same home network

- I cannot use cloud solution for the catalog file because of very slow internet connection

- I tried with iSCSI drive setup but Synology support said that I cannot access same folder (target) from two different devices

 

Any additional information I'll be happy to provide, just to manage this problem 🙂

 

Thanks in advance,

 

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Darko

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GoldingD
Legend
September 8, 2021
GoldingD
Legend
September 8, 2021

 

 

Synology NAS with photos on it, but with Catalog file as well

 

No

LrC catalogs cannot work on a NAS or other local server share. See (ref 1)

Can I store or share a catalog on a network?

No, you can't store catalogs on a network but you can store or share your photos on a network. Smart Previews let you edit your photos in Lightroom Classic even when you are disconnected from the network or when your computer is disconnected from the drive that has your photos.

Somewhat possible via Cloud.

 

(ref 1): Adobe | Lightroom Classic catalog FAQ

 

Mortis Angelus
Participating Frequently
October 5, 2023

Sorry for reviving an old - but still releveant - topic thread.

 

Is this still the case with modern LrC? It feels extremely counter intuitive that a software suite like Adobe's is locked like this. Furthermore, the non-classic version can be synced between different devices, right?

 

Also: if you can't use multiple devices, how can I transfer and re-use my catalogue if I reinstall my entire computer. Doesn't the "import catalogue" solve this issue? Why can't you use that for NAS-stored catalogue?

 

What is it that I fail to undestand here?

 

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 5, 2023
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Is this still the case with modern LrC? It feels extremely counter intuitive that a software suite like Adobe's is locked like this.

By @Mortis Angelus

 

As I posted in an earlier reply, other similar applications at similar price points have similar restrictions. If there was an app that was free of this while also being reasonably competent at editing and organzing, then everybody would have deserted this application for that one already. But it seems like no company has wanted to guarantee catalog compatibility with NAS at a consumer price point, it’s more of an enterprise level thing for whatever reason. (I’m not defending this, this is just how it is.)

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Furthermore, the non-classic version can be synced between different devices, right?

By @Mortis Angelus

 

The non-classic version  is cloud-based Lightroom, and Adobe is very strict about that cloud aspect, so it does not solve the problem in this thread. Sure, it “can be synced,” but the way you want to think about it is, it is their syncing, not yours. They achieve sync by uploading every one of your originals to their server, and then the images are avalable to any of your devices that are signed into your account. But this is cloud syncing over the Internet, not syncing to a local NAS. In other words, the way thay do syncing also does not allow permanently storing images on an NAS, or any local folder, at your site. Any image you put into cloud Lightroom is sent to Adobe.

 

It’s important to understand the non-Classic syncing is not anything strange or exotic. It’s the same “cloud is truth” model that was already being used successfully by Google Photos, Apple Photos, and others, because it is so effective in a multi-device world for those who don’t want to become network administrators. (But again, I’m not really defending it, because I prefer to manage my photos locally in Lightroom Classic.)

 

So the non-Classic version can’t be used as a counter-argument because you do not have local control over the kind of syncing that it does.

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Also: if you can't use multiple devices, how can I transfer and re-use my catalogue if I reinstall my entire computer. Doesn't the "import catalogue" solve this issue?

By @Mortis Angelus

 

That is not an actual problem, because there is no restriction on which computer or how many computers you have catalogs on. If my computer dies, I just restore the catalog and images from my backup to the new computer. No problem. Again…the restriction is specifcally about operating a catalog from an NAS…just that, and only that.

 

And Import Catalogue is not the recommended way to recover. Import Catalogue might help if the original catalog (or backup of it) got corrupted, but as I said above you can normally recover from a disaster simply restoring a copy of the catalog to any volume inside a computer or any external volume connected directly to the computer. Because DAS, or direct attached storage, is OK. Again, it’s specifically NAS that is not supported. Everything else works.

dj_paige
Legend
September 8, 2021

Two Windows 10 PCs (PC and laptop) with LR Classic using same catalog file from NAS (not at the same time!) 

 

Lightroom Classic catalog files cannot be on NAS storage.

Darko5EEAAuteur
Participant
September 8, 2021

Hi. 

 

I know that, but I don't understand why? And second, what is the solution?

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 8, 2021

This may not be a 100% accurate explanation, but it’s how I understand the situation: Lightroom Classic uses a SQL database, and the version of SQL they use is not multi-user. Attempts to use it in a multi-user way may cause database corruption. Other comparable digital asset managers (DAMs), such as Apple Aperture, were built on the same SQL type of database and have the same limitations and restrictions.

 

There are DAMs out there that are built for multi-user and network access that you can look into, such as:

Daminion

Extensis Portfolio

Adobe Experience Manager Assets