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February 16, 2022
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Lightroom Classic still can't handle Nikon Z9 raw files properly

  • February 16, 2022
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It's been 2-3months now since Adobe provided support to read Nikon Z9 RAW file in Lightroom but the performance been far off from good. The importing of 9 files been very slow compare to other Nikon camera model, it almost double the time just to import files in. Secondly, the noise level at low ISO have been really bad even after noise reduction. The Nikon jpg file seems to have better noise control. I hope Adobe can provide more updates for Nikon Z9 to have more usable files like all the previous models.

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Correct answer Jao vdL

Indeed the Lightroom version looks far better with better detail and the noise in the back is easy to fix in five seconds with the detail sliders. This is just a difference in default amount of noise reduction.

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KR Seals
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2022

@ nancycoste

Can you please provide more information? What happens when you try to use Nikon Z9 nef files in Lightroom Classic?

Ken Seals - Nikon Z 9, Z 8, 14mm-800mm. Computer Win 11 Pro, I7-14700K, 64GB, RTX3070TI. Travel machine: 2021 MacBook Pro M1 MAX 64GB. All Adobe apps.
Inspiring
September 18, 2022

I think you should be thankful that at least Profile corrections (vignetting removal and lens corrections) are applied by default now. Just saying.

 

As for the speed, buy faster Nvidia gpu. Default application of camera stuff means it will be quite slow.

 

(Rawtherapee shows just how small vignetting is, wow and is slower than even Camera Raw!)

Known Participant
March 15, 2022

same problem on my side....does not import the raw at all..

 

Community Expert
March 15, 2022

I have analysed a number Z9 raw images because of other threads like this and have concluded that there is no difference between this camera and other Z series as well as other similar cameras from Sony and Canon with respect to the rendering in Lightroom. The noise is exactly how you expect it at higher ISOs and represents the actual noise in the image. However, if you compare with in-camera jpegs, the rendering is by default indeed much noisier. What is also abundently clear is that Nikon's noise reduction is extreme and is actually losing you a lot of detail. It is very objectionable (at least to me) . Optimizing the noise reduction in Lightroom (which takes seconds) gives far superior results. You can also make them look the same if you want but you'll lose just as much detail as Nikon's rendering obliterates so it really is a choice. I think what is happening here is that Nikon made their in-camera noise reduction even more aggressive and this is making people think Lightroom is doing something wrong when in fact it is just being honest. Of course running the files through Topaz blows both completely out of the water but that is no surprise as it is much slower to do that.

If you're seeing different results would love to see some examples but best to send them to Adobe as they will use them to fine tune the default settings.

Not sure what is going on with the importing. The files I got went in at the same speed as any other. 

Participant
May 31, 2022

Z9 raw images cannot be properly edited if there are windows   https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html?fbclid=IwAR3q0PaWHcFKyKhTBTGXyEn7rp50oapiLSazl5IourVI-mPS2cpW_XbO55A     

Z 9 (*see note)NEFYes14.05.011.0
Note:
 

(*) Nikon High Efficiency raw compression modes are currently not supported on:

  • Windows ARM64 
  • ARMv7 and x86 for Android                                                   
    Note:
     

    Preliminary support means that the image quality and raw format support for the given camera model is not yet finalized and may be updated in a future release.

Inspiring
October 28, 2022

That is windows arm64. Not x86_64. Also that is HE*.

elizabethh92632953
Participant
March 14, 2022

Lightroom works slowly while processing Nikon Z9 images. I have not noticed the noise issue you are talking about but i have went though every trouble shoot possible. As a high volume shooter part of the year i am very concerned about this slowing my workflow down significantly. Prior to this if I had an issue with an update I would just set to a previous version of lightroom classic, however, this is not possible since earlier versions will not reconize the Z9 files. 

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 14, 2022

Your asking for help yet providing next to no information that can be used as even a starting point. I suggest your start a new thread and provide a more comprehensive explanation of where you're having issues (e.g import, previews, masks, spot/clone, etc). You should also provide details of the OS you're using along with the type and specification of the computer. 

elizabethh92632953
Participant
March 14, 2022

I believe I was responding to the origional posted stating I had issues as well but a little beyond just the importing and that I have not experienced the posters noise issue. I did not ask for help on any part of this message. I unfortunatly read your message as very rude and condesending and rememember now why i do not participate in these forums. 

Participant
February 28, 2022

I believe that LR Classic 11.2 (with Camera RAW 14.2) treats my RAW files just fine -- but it will not show a decent clear sharp image on my monitor -- whereas when I edit in, say, Topaz Sharpen AI - I see a sharp image before I apply the sharpening model.

Zooming in to 100% in LR sometimes helps - LR "loads" the file and a clearer sharper image emerges. 

I build 1:1 previews and smart previews on all the files I work on -- and then discard them later. 

It is really frustraiting when checking sharpness has been a key part of my image sifting process. 

What is going on LR?

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
February 16, 2022

Actually, without detailed information, examples, and reproducible steps, I recommend not posting this in the "Bug" section. There is not enough information to determine that this is a bug. 

 

Better would be to provide examples of image #'s and exact time to import between 'other Nikon' camera model and the Z9. I suspect we are dealing with a file size issue. 

 

WRT Noise - examples of what you are seeing would help a great deal. 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Participant
February 18, 2022

Hi there, I have experienced the same problem that defaultommy had. If there's a specific email where I can send examples I would be very happy to send it if this could somehow help.
Really the files, once are imported on lightroom, are almost impossible to work compared with nikon jpg from camera or their software. 

I hope this could be fixed.

dj_paige
Legend
February 18, 2022

Put some of the RAW originals in a file sharing site like DropBox or similar, and then provide us with the link.

dj_paige
Legend
February 16, 2022

We're not Adobe in this part of the forum, we are other Lightroom Classic users, we can't modify how the software behaves. You would be better off posting this in the BUGS portion of the forum, not in the DISCUSSIONS part of the forum.