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April 28, 2020
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Lightroom is getting worse with each update

  • April 28, 2020
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I used to love Lightroom. I thought it was the best bargain with the Creative Cloud subsscription along with Photoshop.

 

Currently using Lightroom Classic 9.2.1 on my I7-4770 with 32 gbs of DDR 3 memory, Nvidia GTX 1060 6 gb video card running Windows 10 Home 64 bit. Most of my other apps zip along Photoshop CC, Corel Painter 2019 and my 3D modeling apps (3D Coat, Blender 3D 2.8, Silo 3d 2.5, DAZ Studio, Poser Pro 11.3, Vue Creator 3D, etc).

 

BUT Lightroom is  a complete dog and really slows down my photo editing workflow.

The issue most of the time is it's doing database stuff and not allowing me to edit my raw files. It's either sychronizing a folder or the metadata.  Both DAZ Studio and Poser Pro have large databases of 3D content. Both are not slowing down at all. They still zip right along. I know it's not my computer. I was a computer support tech for 35 years and recently retired 2 years ago.

 

It's driving me completely nuts and what took little time to edit a raw file now can take several minutes. And can often freeze Lightroom only but not my computer or Widows10..

 

I have a large catalog of 150,000 images AND PLEASE DO NOT SUGGEST I DIVIDE MY CALALOG INTO SMALLER ONES. Please do not suggest this. Not interested in doing this. I have all of my photos into various catalogs that make sense to me. AND IF Lightroom can not handle a catalog of this size, then I'm gonna give some strong thought to jumping ship.

 

I've also seen on the web some other people are having this issue with the terrible performance of Lightroom due it's database handling. And some of them have found some competing products that do not have this issue.

 

My question to Adobe: Is this issue being looked into? Will it be fixed soon? I have no issues with Adobe, it's pricing or it's products. BUT Lightroom has been getting worse and slower with every update IMHO. Others may disagree.

 

Regards

Ken

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Correct answer Morris60

I am quite pleased to report since the latest update to Lightroom Classic 9.3 it has been very stable. Since the update over a week or so ago, I have not experienced any freezing or hanging. Much appreciated Adobe.

 

Cheers

 

Ken

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ffaizal
Participant
May 4, 2022

Can confirm, getting lots of "not responding" and infinite loading in Develop pane when clicking on thumbnails. I don't even have a lot of activity/catalog additions since I last opened it in 2021. 

 

I think adobe just want to push the mobile version. Hence giving it the Classic name. Soon it'll be called Legacy then Unsupported.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
May 4, 2022

@ffaizal wrote:

Can confirm, getting lots of "not responding" and infinite loading in Develop pane when clicking on thumbnails. I don't even have a lot of activity/catalog additions since I last opened it in 2021. 

 


 

This thread which has a correct answer for the OP is from August of 2020! IF you have an actual problem, start a new thread with exactly the issue, your exact OS, and the version you are currently running. 

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participant
May 20, 2020

I, too, am finding the latest update of Lightroom very slow, and I'm fairly sure I've found a memory leak.

 

I've optimized my catalog of 93K photos, turned off face detection, and enabled GPU processing. My catalog is on an SSD.

 

When I start up Lightroom Classic version: 9.2.1 [ 202004070813-7699d98a ], (takes about 2 minutes), and let it settle in a folder in Loupe Mode, it is using 2.1 GB of memory. (my system has 32GB)

 

As I press the right and left arrow keys, going to the next and previous photos, back and forth, back and forth viewing two different photos - and do nothing else - the memory climbs with almost every keystroke.  After about 50-60 back and forths, its using 2.7GB. I pause and type on this comment, and the memory use remains constant. I go back to LR and go back and forth the same 2 photos about 30 more times, and now Lightroom is using 3.0GB. 

 

This is almost certainly a memory leak! And would in time cripple your system.

 

Please help me voice this concern to the right people at Adobe to have this fixed !

 

Paul Terry

paulbterry at gmail dot com 

Morris60AuthorCorrect answer
Inspiring
July 4, 2020

I am quite pleased to report since the latest update to Lightroom Classic 9.3 it has been very stable. Since the update over a week or so ago, I have not experienced any freezing or hanging. Much appreciated Adobe.

 

Cheers

 

Ken

Morris60Author
Inspiring
August 10, 2020

Still working stellar and humming like a small block Chevy V8. No freezing or big delays.

Very pleased....

DdeGannes
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 7, 2020

Ok just a follow up on my earlier post, I have seen your post with the info on your SSD drives.

Another thought out of the box, Your computer performance will be limited to the weakest link. Could that be the USB connection to the External SSD.  The computer may be USB or USB 2. the SSD is probably USB 3.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
Morris60Author
Inspiring
May 8, 2020

I only use my USB drives for backups. I do not have any photos on USB drives in my Lightroom catalog.

I use Synchredible to backup my photos, 3D renderings and digital paintings to the USB drives.

I do not run applications or access any of my data on the USB drives. They are for BACKUP only.

 

I use 2 internal sata drives for my photos and 1 internal sata drive for my digital art. All three drives are in my ONE Lightroom catalog.

 

Photos

Drive D - 5.45TB - 862GB free

Drive N - 3.63TB - 2.45TB free

 

Digital Art

Drive E - 1.36tb - 315GB free

 

I have my OS & Apps installed on a Samsung 1TB SSD drive. I also have an Intel 465GB SSD which is used to store my Lightroom catalog & temp files.  Lightroom app is installed on the Samsung 1 TB SSD with my OS & other apps.

 

The only app I have issues with is Lightroom Classic. I've uninstalled and re-installed it twice. It did not resolve the issue.

 

Photoshop CC, Corel Painter 2019, e-onsoftware's Vue Creator, Poser Pro 11.3, Daz Studio, Blender 2.82, 3D Coat 4.9, Silo3D and other apps operate fine. And exhbit NONE of the issues Lightroom.

JP Hess
Inspiring
May 7, 2020

Just as a follow-up to what Denis said, my images are spread across two internal hard drives and two external hard drives, None of which are the master hard drive on which Lightroom is installed. The computer is an old HP Pavilion desktop that really should be replaced but probably won't be. It only has 8 GB of RAM, won't accommodate any more. Lightroom performs reasonably well unless I try to assemble a 30 image panorama like I did yesterday. It took about 10 min. to finish the job. Three horizontal rows of 10 images. But at least it worked. Since I'm 76 years old, and not as fast as I used to be, I guess I can't complain about the speed.

DdeGannes
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 7, 2020

Ok, I have been reading this thread and the only thing I can think of that is not available or discussed, is the storage capacity of your computer.

I saw the following in another thread this morning and thought it might have some bearing on the situation here.

From another thread.

"When you have that many photos, it's really not wise to place all of them on your main hard drive. As you might already know, the more empty space on your computer's hard drive, the more efficiently it works. Try not to fill it up beyond more than 2/3 or 3/4 MAX (I leave mine at around 50%)."

 

Another thought, you had the following in the original post "It's either sychronizing a folder or the metadata".

Have you selected a folder in the library module that has multiple sub-folders containing image files and other files and use the menu select the option "sycronize folder"?

 

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
Morris60Author
Inspiring
May 4, 2020

Lightroom with it's performance glitches and freezing while doing database administration is simply making Lightroom unusable and not very productive.

Known Participant
April 28, 2020
Ken I totally agree with you that LR has become a much slower program than ever.  I find my wait times for thing to happen at the most basic level to have increased but the most frustrating thing is the "not responding" warnings.  They seem to be occurring more often and I find myself going to help sights more often without any resolution.  I wish that Adobe would stop with the updates and streamline the existing program so it functions in the manner we expect and need and had.  
Herman
Morris60Author
Inspiring
April 29, 2020

I would prefer less eye candy and better performance & stability. The database management is pathetic.

GoldingD
Legend
April 28, 2020

Please post your system information as Lightroom Classic reports it, Yes I see bits if that, but please post as Lightroom reports it. In Lightroom Classic, click on Help, click on System Info, click on Copy. PASTE (DO NOT ATTACH) that into a reply. Include all info from first line down to and including plugin info.

 

Morris60Author
Inspiring
May 4, 2020

I've posted my System Info as requested. Did you see anything? Cheers

GoldingD
Legend
May 4, 2020

 

Camera Raw virtual memory: 26MB / 16319MB (0%)
Camera Raw real memory: 27MB / 32639MB (0%)

 

I see I fouled up, and clicked on the wrong place to make some replys, may be out of logical order, so be it, moving on.

 

The above info reminds me I need to get off my rear end, turn on my rig, and note if that tells me what the setting for Camera RAW CACHE is set to.

 

What is your Camera RAW CACHE set to? Would effect Develop module performance, not Library.

 

dj_paige
Legend
April 28, 2020

A common cause of slowness in editing is doing a lot of local adjustments on an image (brusing or spot healing). This is made worse by 4K or larger monitors, and made worse by high megapixel original photos. If that's what you are doing, you can try turning off the GPU acceleration (although this may slow other things down).

 

"My question to Adobe: Is this issue being looked into? Will it be fixed soon? I have no issues with Adobe, it's pricing or it's products. BUT Lightroom has been getting worse and slower with every update IMHO. Others may disagree."

 

We are not Adobe in this forum. We are other Lightroom users in this forum. We cannot answer such a question. You need to ask Adobe, not us. The link was given earlier.

Inspiring
April 28, 2020

I will not recommend you decrease the size of your catalogs. I also have a 150 000 images.

What I know nevertheless is that synchronising a folder and metadata can be horrible and sucking all CPU as you mention. I have no solution to make them faster or run in the background unfortunately. I am afraid only ASOBE can work on that topic.

I just want to share my experience :
-I only synchronise folder when adding photos created by another application, but limited to one or 2 images in a folder not containing more than 500 photos. ( the best example being creating a copy in Photoshop and saving it in the original folder, then to see it you need to sync the folder in LR) In all the other cases, I use import.
-Metadata syncing is quite rare for me, but when I do it it takes a while and sucks all CPU. No work around except doing it by small numbers in each folder instead of a big folder with 10 000 images.
-I use to optimise my catalogs each time I exit LR. This takes some time but It does accelerate a lot LR when reopening LR and solve the metadata issue as well.
-I make sure that in my Catalog Preferences I check the box to write metadata with the file.

Hope it will help a little be but I realize it is not that much.

Best Regards
Eric Pecquerie

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