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April 21, 2023
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Macbook Pro crashes when using new AI Denoise

  • April 21, 2023
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I have been trying to use the Denoise without one single success.  My Macbook has 16MB of RAM and is up to that (running Big Sur 11.7.6).

 

It will continualklycrash before completing even 20% of the DNG generation process andf the crash takes one of three forms.....

1) Lightroom only crashes.

2) all programmes crash but my comnputer does not crash.

3) my computer crashes and I get computer generated warning of the crash.

 

I have cleaned up my computer, removed unneccessary apps, cleaned out the cache, reloaded Lightroom Classic, run only LRC with all other programmes closed and still no success.........!

 

I am now running the 30 day trial period of DxO Pure Raw 3 which if I cannot solve this problem will cost me USD129. DxO takes no more than 2 minutes to complete the noise reduction with a 100% success rate.  Needless to say, I do not want to spend USD129 when I already have a LRC subscription. 

 

Please help to solve this problem. 

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johnrellis
Legend
April 22, 2023

Do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running.

melc88Author
Participating Frequently
April 23, 2023

John, as you can see, I have uploaded my System Info.  Thasnks.

johnrellis
Legend
April 23, 2023

"I got a message saying denoise was not applied "unknown error"!"

 

That usually indicates a problem with the graphics driver.  On Mac, the only way to update graphics drivers is by updating Mac OS -- you're on Mac OS 11.7.6, for which Apple stopped most updates (except security updates) 1.5 years ago.  

 

So updating to Mac OS 13 or 12 might help by getting a newer driver. But you may be restricted by the age of your laptop.

 

Further your graphics hardware, NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M, is very old, launched January 2013.  The graphics manufacturers quietly stop fixing bugs in drivers for old hardware, so the updated drivers in Mac OS 12 or 13 may not fix the problem.

 

And ten-year-old graphics hardware often won't provide acceptable speed for Denoise.  There are many reports here of Denoise taking 5 - 20 minutes per photo on older graphics hardware!  

 

You may not have very much graphics memory on that older hardware -- System Info unfortunately doesn't always report that for Macs, but you can do Settings > Preferences > Performance, which can show the amount of graphics memory.  LR requires a minimum of 2GB, but reports here suggest that Denoise is very slow with less than 4GB, and Adobe recommends 8GB for best performance.

 

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
April 21, 2023

Try logging into another Mac user account (you should make a new one); still crashing? 
Try starting up in Safe mode (hold down Shift Key when booting*), still crashing? 
You might want to try running a free utility like Onyx: still crashing? 
https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html
Also view:
https://www.macworld.com/article/352902/onyx-review-macos.html
https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html
From Adobe:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/basic-troubleshooting.html

* How to start your M1/M2 Mac in Safe Mode
On your Mac, choose Apple menu () > Shut Down.
After your Mac shuts down, wait 10 seconds.
Press and hold the power button until the startup disks and Options appear.
Press and hold the Shift key, then click Continue in Safe Mode.

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melc88Author
Participating Frequently
April 22, 2023

Hi thedigitaldog

Thanks for the multiple suggestions, much appreciated.

Unfortunately I have not been able to solve the problem and below is the outcome of the suggestions you made.

Logging into another Mac user account - crashed around 30% of dng generation.

In Safe mode - Lightroom said my dng files were not compatible with denoise.

Onyx would not run on my OS 11.7.6 OS.

I reset the nvram/pram and smc - denoise managed to load the enhanced preview and said dng generation in 5 minutes. I pressed Enhance and 5 seconds later I got a message saying denoise was not applied "unknow error"!

So many thanks again and I will wait for further suggestions.

kglad
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 21, 2023

in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

 

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post if it helps you get responses.

 

<moved from using the community>

melc88Author
Participating Frequently
April 21, 2023

Thank you kglad.

kglad
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 21, 2023

(no problem.)