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January 26, 2023
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Missing color profiles in Lightroom Classic when trying to edit dng file (from drone)

  • January 26, 2023
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Hi dear friends, I have a problem with my own profile (preset) in Lightroom.

 

The problem is that I have created my own color profiles that I would like to be able to apply to each photo. I have RNI profiles in my collection that are visible and I can use them in any edit. My profiles created in CameraRaw overlap great with photos from my Sony A7III but I noticed that when I select photos from my drone (DJI Mini Pro 3) in the "develop" tab - all settings (profile presets and profiles) disappear and I have no way to add them. The problem probably lies in saving my color profiles, because as I wrote, the RNIs are visible regardless of the photo. Only what I see when click in dng file is RNI, and Color and Monochrome profile... but my own profiles just gone xD

What can I do and what should I change to deal with such a problem? Please help me! If more information needs to be sent to you, be sure to let me know. I will be waiting.

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Sean McCormack
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Sean McCormackCommunity Expert
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January 27, 2023

All correct above. Profiles are camera specific and self made ones are based on existing profiles. 

 

For my Air 2s, I've done the edit and then followed through to make the profile in Camera Raw to give me a better base for the drone files. It still starts with the default profile. Maybe it's time for an updated video. The real aim of the video when I made it was to show the hidden shortcut to access the profile creation. 

 

 

Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.
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    karolp84417736Author
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    January 27, 2023

    Haha, hello Sean! I didn't expect that by pasting the link to the video here I would get a response directly from the author. Very nice to meet you and thank you for getting involved.

     

    When I created my profiles, I always deselected the "profile" function - so theoretically I was relying on settings called "camera settings" or something similar.

     

    Hence, I conclude that if DJI does not have support (and I have verified this) in Lightroom, it simply does not catch the "camera settings" settings because they are not there.

     

    My biggest  shock in this situation is the question "how the heck did the creators of the RNI profiles do it" that they work equally well on any type of photo?

     

    Something got me thinking today, because I came across a hint that you can also create LUTs and profiles for Lr, Ps - directly in Photoshop, not in the CameraRAW filter. I assume the idea is to create a solitary layer which is something that resembles a profile created in Camera Raw, but does not make the profile dependent on a particular type of "camera settings or Adohe Color etc."

     

    Some people use CUBE settings to create a profile - based on editing layers in Photoshop (almost like I do on CameraRAW) and only in CameraRAW do they use the cube to create a profile.

     

    My problem now is the additional fact - that if there is no other option then I have to delete all my profiles and create anew - which will take me a very long time.

     

    I would like to be wrong and hear what I should change in my profiles to make them work like RNI.

     

    If necessary, I can send the source code of both files: my profile and RNI

    GoldingD
    GoldingD
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    January 27, 2023

    "When I created my profiles, I always deselected the "profile" function - so theoretically I was relying on settings called "camera settings" or something similar."

     

    Not sure how you deselect the profile. Fairly sure you cannot for RAW. Now you can choose to not select a camera matching profile, but not select (deselect) no profile. Not for a RAW file. As you stated their may actually be no camera matching profiles, but for your RAW files a profile will be used, one from the Adobe RAW set. Their are seven of those. Oh, and for your Drone, if I remember correct, it uses DNG for the RAW file?

     

    Now about those seven Adobe RAW profiles. Their are several versions included in the software, When you select a photo from a particular camera, the version that is appropriate to that camera is in use, in the profile browser, presented to you for use.  Not all cameras have their own version of any of the Adobe RAW profiles, many many cameras will use the same ones, but some cameras presented issues to Adobe when they created the RAW conversion for the cameras, for the particular RAW data. Hence some of these Adobe RAW profiles work for one or a few more cameras, and not others, and visa version. The Adobe Standard profile is the most prevalent one on this. 

     

    Perhaps SeanMcCormack will correct/clarify this. 

     

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    karolp84417736Author
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    January 26, 2023

    Hi dear friends, I have a problem with my own profile (preset) in Lightroom.

     

    The problem is that I have created my own color profiles that I would like to be able to apply to each photo. I have RNI profiles in my collection that are visible and I can use them in any edit. My profiles created in CameraRaw overlap great with photos from my Sony A7III but I noticed that when I select photos from my drone (DJI Mini Pro 3) in the "develop" tab - all settings (profile presets and profiles) disappear and I have no way to add them.

    I thinkg that the problem probably is in setting while i saving my color profiles i CameraRaw, because as I wrote, the RNIs are visible regardless of the photo. Only what I see when click in dng file is RNI, and Color and Monochrome profile... but my own profiles just gone xD

    What can I do and what should I change to deal with such a problem? Please help me! If more information needs to be sent to you, be sure to let me know. I will be waiting.

    TheDigitalDog
    TheDigitalDog
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    January 26, 2023

    Developed color profiles how and for what camera? 

    DCP profiles are camera model specific. You can't build one for an A7III and use it for anything but an A7III. 

    Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
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    karolp84417736Author
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    January 26, 2023

    Thank you for your reply

    I created my profiles based on such guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKpd84-uuc&ab_channel=SeanMcCormack

    I think I am doing exactly what he is doing. I have no problem to create my color profiles anew, however, it puzzles me why the RNI profiles - can be imposed on each photo without thinking about what camera they are for. The effects are subtle everywhere. It works the same way when I impose my profiles on my photos (not just from the Sony camera) - but only when shooting from a drone, all options disappear.

    I'm not good at tech.

    GoldingD
    GoldingD
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    January 27, 2023

    So, in that video, the author, who was working with a RAW file, a RAF from a Fujifilm X camera. In the develop module, he had selected a camera matching profile, Provia/Standard. everything after that point is of little importance to the issue at hand.

     

    As a profile specific to one camera, whatever Fujifilm X camera he has, was used, the eventual user created profile will be of no value or use to a different make/model of camera, it might not even work on say an X-T5, if his camera was say an X-T3, much less work on say a Nikon Z5, a Canon EOS IV, your Drone.

     

    If you were to attempt to use that user profile, it will fail.

     

    P.S. had the author started with an Adobe profile, perhaps Standard, it could still fail, their is more than one Adobe Standard, specific to a camera, or a group of cameras. 

     

     

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