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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
October 15, 2024

Tried to remove a tree trunk but it simply replaced it with a smaller section . I also tried extending the selection quite a way into the background but got a similar result. Went into PS and removed it with the remove tool. 

Kai Marzog
Participant
October 15, 2024

Generative removal has to be done again for ALL masks in the catalog and this causes errors in already finished images and also means that all newly created masks are deducted from the monthly available credits? WHY?

Participant
October 15, 2024

Trovo l'ultimo aggiornamento molto peggiorativo rispetto alla versione precedente che reputavo ottima. Rimozione generativa lentissima e a scatti. Ad ogni operazione di rimozione lasci fastidiosissimi aloni chiari. Diventa tutto molto complesso. Urge patch di correzione.

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@vincenzo_6388: "With each removal operation you leave annoying light halos."

 

Please attach full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the ENTIRE LR window showing the photo after you've made your selection of the object and then after you've clicked Remove.  We'll then see exactly what's going on and can likely provide an easy solution.

Participating Frequently
October 15, 2024

When applied, the generative remove fx leaves a no-grain patch even if the area is surrounded by pixels with grain; is there a way to match the grain of the rest of the image also on the retouched area?

C.Cella
Inspiring
October 15, 2024

@bergamar to truly match grain in LrC is pretty much impossible.

LrC grain Library is very limited compared to other softwares.

 

What you can do is apply a Mask with Local Grain over the Gen Remove Area and try to match the image noise/grain.

 

You can simplyfy the process by creating a Full Image Mask that selects the entire image and apply to all the Image the same Local Grain.

Like this you have a match, in the sense that the grain applied by LrC will be the same everywhere BUT this approach means adding Grain above the one of the RAW. 

 

DO NOT use Global Grain in the Detail PANEL to match grain

Unfortunately it adds blur we can't control above Grain Size +30.

 

The Local Grain doesn't add blur so you can keep your orginal sharpness intact, Local Grain is better.

 

Participant
October 15, 2024

Hello.

Lightroom Classic 14.0 on Windows 11 

It would seem the app updated to this version in the background in the past 24 hours. Suddenly, the Remove tool, which has worked beautifully as an eraser, is not working - the result ends up moving fragments of the object I'm trying to erase, from one part of the image to another. 
Am I missing something?

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@jerseyjon: "the result ends up moving fragments of the object I'm trying to erase, from one part of the image to another."

 

Please attach full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the ENTIRE LR window showing the photo after you've made your selection of the object and then after you've clicked Remove.  We'll then see exactly what's going on and can likely provide an easy solution.

Known Participant
October 15, 2024

release 14.0

just upgraded and my first attempt was flawless with LR. I has worked good up to this point but this was a complicated background

 

sarkara1
Known Participant
October 15, 2024

After using generative remove to remove a branch, the branch is back later after restarting LR. WTF?
LR Classic 14.

Participating Frequently
October 14, 2024

Acredito que o novo recurso de IA do LR ainda precisa melhorar muito. Não se trata de um Bug porque o programa processa, mas sim de uma alucinação estranha de não fazer o serviço bem feito em uma condição muito favorável. Bug em vídeo 

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@Alan27416038d67j, your screen recording shows you're trying to remove objects from the edge of the photo, and LR is generating some other object as a replacement:

 

This usually happens when there are pixels beyond the edge that have been cropped out due to Crop, Transform, or Lens Corrections. So undo any of those you've applied and then do the Remove. 

 

See this article for more details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

Participating Frequently
October 16, 2024

@johnrellis 

Thanks for the reply, but the interesting thing is that I didn't crop the photo at all, it's exactly as I took it from the camera, I'll put it here for you to test. Another thing, look, I repeated it again, making sure there was no crop in the photo and look how cool, now it added a mini ball. I did it again and finally he got it right.

Anyway, it worked.

 

Participant
October 14, 2024

I was really excited for this remove feature and it worked great ....but it did not SAVE or EXPORT the result  

Participant
October 16, 2024

Have had the exact same issue and just wasted an HOUR trying to redo the edits, only to have all the issues reappear in the photos. PLEASE FIX THIS!

johnrellis
Legend
October 16, 2024

@Catherine31232442u2qc: "just wasted an HOUR trying to redo the edits, only to have all the issues reappear in the photos."

 

Adobe has acknowledged this bug -- see here for their workaround:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-subject-mask-from-previous-versions-are-requesting-an-update/idc-p/14916235/page/2#M57397

Known Participant
October 14, 2024

The remove+generative AI failed to remove selected objects (humans): this tool changed the person position, the where he was looking , etc etc. No removal took effect frem that image

johnrellis
Legend
October 15, 2024

@rivalg: "this tool changed the person position, the where he was looking , etc "

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove replacing are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.