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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

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Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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christinag89624499

Participant

So, Lightroom Classic 14.0.1 - For me the Generative Remove works nicely, except that it constantly needs me to "update remove settings." If I go to another photo and come back, Update Remove Settings. When I export the photo as a jpg, the thing I removed is there! Even if I update and then directly export one file at a time, without clicking off it after updating, it may or may not export correctly.

johnrellis

Legend

@christinag89624499: "Lightroom Classic 14.0.1 - For me the Generative Remove works nicely, except that it constantly needs me to "update remove settings."

LR 14.0 had a serious bug with this, and Adobe very quickly released 14.0.1 to fix it. But getting the fix to work appears to be quite fussy for many people (and Adobe has provided ambiguous direction on that score). See the second reply from Adobe employee Rikk Flohr at the top of the bug report thread:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-subject-mask-from-previous-versions-are-requesting-an-update/idi-p/14915210

If that doesn't help, then please post in that thread with details of what's going wrong. You're much more likely to resolve the issue in that thread than in this one.

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?ukasz_W3127

Participant

Every now and then the elements I delete reappear and I get a message in that section: "some deletion settings need to be updated" and I have to use generative deletion again. In a moment (e.g. when I generate some photos) it happens again and again... (same with AI powered masks) And my generative points are taken away from me.

I ask for an immediate fix for this problem and a refund of the generative points.

Best regards

ksmch

Participating Frequently

I just need to show it somebody) I was expected to generate lips without tongue. Likely I got that result because of zone I masked was looks like an eye

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ushj24481867

Participant

Sometimes it does just fine, but other times the suggestions either don't blend in at all or the mask of what needs to be changed isn't functioning correctly. I don't think it recognizes the boundaries of the mask even when I subtract parts. It still alters the image in parts of the mask that were deleted before generating a suggestion. It's easier to just go into Ps Beta for generative fill at that point (even though it's a headache to plug my hard drive in/it slows down the system), but I enjoy being able to use the LrC version on smart previews.

I wish there was some kind of magnetic lasso function to make selection easier. I feel like there was a simliar function before, but I don't see it on my toolbar anymore.

Also, if we can bring the "remove tool" from Ps over, that would be great lol the healing tool in Lr just doesn't do it for me. Thank you!

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snoitanb

Participant

On my first attempt to use it it wasn't even close. It merely changed the appearance of the object I was trying to remove.

johnrellis

Legend

@tokyomagic: "It merely changed the appearance of the object I was trying to remove."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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tokyomagic

Known Participant

Excellent, more useless AI rubbish bloating the software.

When will adobe do an optimisation pass on lightroom?

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GerbenPhoto

Participant

Hi! If I use Generative Remove in Lightroom and for instance want to remove somebody's head in the foreground it doenst remove the head, but replaceses is for another head. Why is that? I want to remove, not replace.

johnrellis

Legend

@GerbenPhoto: "remove somebody's head in the foreground it doesn't remove the head, but replaces it for another head."

You need to remove all parts of the person's body, including shoulders or arms or whatever that are disconnected from the head, and remove all shadows. If you leave any bits behind, Remove will try to match them. See this article for an example and more details:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Lana30886869tg7s

Participant

The new version is terrible. the older version was much more intuitive and would remove objects in the background easily. Please go back to the older version.

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jessielanawayphoto

Participant

Completely agree. The new version is absolutely terrible.

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josé manuelá32411923

Participant

Muy bueno

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f8lee

Inspiring

Well, the generative removal tool does not seem to work on power lines. Photo of a setting sun (so lots of orange); power lines with no background other than the orange sky) - attempts to select the power lines themselves proved fruitless. After a few seconds of "thinking" the power lines were not altered in any way.

Running on a MacBook M3 Pro - 18GB RAM, Sonoma 14.5.1

johnrellis

Legend

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@f8lee: "After a few seconds of "thinking" the power lines were not altered in any way."

Working with the low-resolution export you attached, I can easily remove the power lines one by one:

Since that export stripped all the clueful metadata, I can't give precise remedies, but things to check:

- Make sure the Opacity slider is 100.

- When you select a line, make sure you select the entire line -- if you leave any bits unselected, Remove will generate a matching replacement.

- Detect Objects often doesn't work very well with lines -- uncheck it.

- If you had previously applied Crop, Transform, or Lens Corrections, undo those, apply Remove, and then redo them. Remove will match the unselected cropped-out pixels on the edges otherwise.

But if this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, including all metadata.

When removing objects against a uniform sky, Remove sometimes doesn't do a good job of blending in the replacement. I got better-blended replacements by making the edges of the selected ragged and selecting the lower three lines in one selection:

johnrellis

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@f8lee, also, the older Content-Aware Remove does a fine job removing the lines, doing one short segment at a time. To do Content-Aware Remove, select Mode: Remove and uncheck Use Generative AI.

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