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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
November 6, 2024

Hello, i dont understand why when i use generative ai and i draw the area i want to fix, why it doesnt hold the area i draw but it draw new one and i have to fix it?

C.Cella
Inspiring
November 6, 2024

@stanislavat34109225 From your description it looks like you are using Detect Objects that makes a new selection, based on the painted area.

Disable it and the paint using Generative Remove normal mode.

Participant
November 6, 2024

Hello, how should i do it, please?

Participating Frequently
November 5, 2024

Rikk, something changed this week. I updated the AI removal option, but now any removal with or without object removal selection replaces the subject (wife and dog) with a unwanted substitute (repetiveley) Last week removal worked perfect without object selection. I tried to attached the original nikon .dng (Z8) file but that format is somehow not supported. I have therefore convert and attached a jpeg 

Thanks for your support

Best regards Lex 

Participant
November 5, 2024

I am having the same problem. I wanted to remove an unwanted part of a person but AI keeps on replacing other unwanted parts instead of removing it. Last week everything worked just fine.

Participant
November 5, 2024

Sorry, dat staat er onduidelijk. Ik bedoel dat AI er telkens iets anders voor in de plaats zet in plaats van het te verwijderen.

Carlos De Carvalho
Participant
November 5, 2024

apos a nova atualização..piorou muito. 

Participant
November 4, 2024

Often if I want to remove a distracting elment, say a bench or something. If I use the AI remove tool, it wont remove it and blend the background.  Instead it will replace the bench with some other weird or whacky bench intead.  I have also had to when I wanted to remove a destracting child from the background.  Intead of cleaning it up, it replaces the child with a random AI generated child.  

Participating Frequently
November 4, 2024
I agree. Waiting for Adobe to correct this.

David Kenny
Participant
November 4, 2024

AI generative remove doesn't seem to work well when there are multiple items to be removed.  I had a wall with 3 signs (2 handicap signs (blue/white) and another white with black lettering on it.  It removed the white sign perfectly but not the other two. It replaced the sign with bizarre imaging--not even close!

johnrellis
Legend
November 4, 2024

@cdquint: "AI generative remove doesn't seem to work well when there are multiple items to be removed."

 

In general, Remove doesn't have such problems. What's going on in your case is hard to say without seeing the unmodified photo. 

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
November 4, 2024

The new removal feature is driving me nuts. Rather than removing a person who should not be there, it's putting in a new and random person. The whole purpose is to remove the object not put in some other strange thing.

 

johnrellis
Legend
November 4, 2024

@Rhonda22756048lpmw: "Rather than removing a person who should not be there, it's putting in a new and random person."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
November 3, 2024

Lamentablemente la generación de imágenes en Lightroom classic no es efectiva.

Intento sacar un simple poste que cruza el cielo o eliminar una gorra que asoma con el fondo de suelo, digamos que fácil de eliminar, y me ofrece modelos de palo, o de gorra, pero no los elimina.

Pasando a editar en PS Beta, la eliminación es perfecta.

johnrellis
Legend
November 3, 2024

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@WalterD Madrid: "I try to remove a simple pole that crosses the sky or eliminate a cap that sticks out with the ground background, let's say easy to eliminate, and it offers me pole or cap models, but it doesn't eliminate them."

 

Using your attached JPEG exported from the raw, I was able to quickly remove the powerline, the pole, and the cap in the corner:

 

Things to check:

 

1. I deselected Detect Objects. It doesn't work very well, especially with skinny objects and objects touching the edges, failing to select all of the object and often making the border around the object (which is necessary) way too big.

 

2. The metadata for the two JPEGs indicates that you cropped the original raws. Remove looks at all the pixels in a photo, included those that are cropped out, and it's generating replacements that match those unselected cropped-out pixels.

 

Adobe wants you to remove first, then crop (which doesn't match many people's natural workflow). So undo the crop, do Remove, then crop again.

 

If that doesn't help, you could be tripping over an obscure bug ("as-designed" according to Adobe) in which for some cameras, like your a6400, the raw files have a hidden border of pixels that automatically get cropped out. It's easy to handle that too:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/generative-remove-doesn-t-ignore-the-hidden-border-pixels-automatically-cropped-by-camera-raw/m-p/14925572

 

You don't encounter this issue in Photoshop because a) It's Object Finder doesn't find the pole, wire, or cap, so you have to select them manually, and b) Photoshop's destructive editing model doesn't have the notion of cropped-out pixels -- they're simply not there.

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Participant
November 3, 2024

Franchement, l'outil IA générative est nul.

X1Jogi
Participant
November 3, 2024

Dauert im Vergleich zu Stempeln zu lange z.b. um Sensorflecken (Pollen, Staub, ...) wegzustempeln. Für größere Retuschen noch nicht probiert.

 

johnrellis
Legend
November 3, 2024

@X1Jogi: "Takes too long compared to stamping, e.g. to stamp away sensor spots (pollen, dust, ...). "

 

Adobe recommends you use the other Remove modes (Content-Aware, Heal, Clone) for correcting small spots.

Immaculens
Inspiring
November 3, 2024

To be honest I'm surprised this is called the remove tool. My overwhelming experience is that it should be called the 'Replace with inferior options' tool... It rarely removes subjects properly, especially near the edge of images. Both Ps & Lrc should simply know by now, given how long content aware has been in use - that objects at edged of images should be completely removed and blended - not replaced with something similar, not removing just 70% of it except for stubborn leftovers. Just one example of the 3 options Lrc gave me below.
What is the trick?

johnrellis
Legend
November 3, 2024

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You've cropped the photo. Remove looks at all the pixels in a photo, included those that are cropped out, and it's generating replacements that match those unselected cropped-out pixels. 

 

Adobe wants you to remove first, then crop (which doesn't match many people's natural workflow).  So undo the crop, do Remove, then crop again. 

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

Immaculens
Inspiring
November 4, 2024

Uncropping first worked - thank-you ~