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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

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System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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Alice_Bruno1335

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Salve ho un problema con la rimozione generativa di LRC. Quando provo a rimuovere qualcosa mi esce sempre un messaggio di errore. Come si può risolvere questo problema?

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mfleck69

Participant

Hello. I'm a photographer in the theatre arts at a major university in Pennsylvania. Just a note if you're not aware: In Lightroom Classic, the 'Remove' tool (with Generative AI and Detect objects both checked) is not removing objects, rather it's replacing them with random items or shapes. I'm trying to remove what is a clean selection and clear object, and Lightroom is adding new objects rather than removing. Thank you for your attention and I look forward to improvements.

johnrellis

Legend

@mfleck69: "Lightroom is adding new objects rather than removing."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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NickiG

Participant

My AI Remove slide is NOT working. It has stopped working since the newest version came in. What's going on? Does anyone else have the same issues?

johnrellis

Legend

@NickiG: "It has stopped working since the newest version came in. "

If it's not generating any replacements at all, even bad ones, then check that the Opacity slider is set to 100.

After you click Remove, it will appear with the other controls that let you modify the removal:

If that doesn't help, then describe in more detail what you're seeing.

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Damian25720529zyod

Participant

Generative AI deleting should have it's own mode - 4th in the remove panel. Or at least, remove tool should reset to deafult after using, because now it saves feature tha was used before, which is often waste of time to change it manually by unchecking 'generative ai' or both 'detect object' and 'generative ai'.

johnrellis

Legend

The current layout also causes confusion, because users don't know that the older Content-Aware remove is still available by unchecking Generative AI. Content-Aware is still quite useful for powerl ines and and when you have many smaller spots.

C.Cella

Legend

FWIW I myself am unable to remove a window despite painting a very large area.

I tried to refresh more times and never I was able to get a result

In Photoshop by instructing the Ai and typing "Wall empty" I got 2 usable results.

So IMO without instruction Generative Remove is failing too much in LrC.

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johnrellis

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Interesting, that's the first example of several dozen posted here where the object didn't remove easily. After about 5 minutes of experimenting, I was able to remove the window by selecting the discoloration underneath it -- it looks like Remove is treating that discolored area like a shadow and trying to generate something to cast the shadow. I agree that allowing the user to provide prompts as in Photoshop would make this example easier.

Here's my result, along with the same selection with Opacity = 1 to show the original image:

C.Cella

Legend

@johnrellis

I think that if I try multiple times eventually I can get the window removed.

But it's a waste of time and credits IMO when in Phothsop is few seconds with instructions.

Now even when Remove succeeds in (LrC or PS) if I zoom I can see the removed area is sub-res/blurred AND the hard edges.

So all looks fine but if one looks carefully the Remove it's evident...it's worse when the area generated is big.

One needs to apply grain on all the image to kinda "hide" the sub res...or the pseudo high res in Phothsop.

.And if one doesn't want to aplly grain then simoly is better to use Clone or Heal that reuse the photo's pixels and have feather.

Reducing Opacity kinda helps with Gen Remove as well but in certain conditions only.

I have sice day one Generative Content in Camera Raw asked to have feathering to at least solve the problem of hard edges...it probably will nver be done.

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stanislavat34109225

Participant

Hello, i dont understand why when i use generative ai and i draw the area i want to fix, why it doesnt hold the area i draw but it draw new one and i have to fix it?

C.Cella

Legend

@stanislavat34109225 From your description it looks like you are using Detect Objects that makes a new selection, based on the painted area.

Disable it and the paint using Generative Remove normal mode.

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stanislavat34109225

Participant

Hello, how should i do it, please?

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lex_9408

Participating Frequently

Rikk, something changed this week. I updated the AI removal option, but now any removal with or without object removal selection replaces the subject (wife and dog) with a unwanted substitute (repetiveley) Last week removal worked perfect without object selection. I tried to attached the original nikon .dng (Z8) file but that format is somehow not supported. I have therefore convert and attached a jpeg

Thanks for your support

Best regards Lex

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willy_9983

Participant

I am having the same problem. I wanted to remove an unwanted part of a person but AI keeps on replacing other unwanted parts instead of removing it. Last week everything worked just fine.

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willy_9983

Participant

Sorry, dat staat er onduidelijk. Ik bedoel dat AI er telkens iets anders voor in de plaats zet in plaats van het te verwijderen.

Carlos De Carvalho

Known Participant

apos a nova atualização..piorou muito.

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ziggee123

Participant

Often if I want to remove a distracting elment, say a bench or something. If I use the AI remove tool, it wont remove it and blend the background. Instead it will replace the bench with some other weird or whacky bench intead. I have also had to when I wanted to remove a destracting child from the background. Intead of cleaning it up, it replaces the child with a random AI generated child.

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sherwood77

Participating Frequently

I agree. Waiting for Adobe to correct this.

David Kenny

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cdquint

Participant

AI generative remove doesn't seem to work well when there are multiple items to be removed. I had a wall with 3 signs (2 handicap signs (blue/white) and another white with black lettering on it. It removed the white sign perfectly but not the other two. It replaced the sign with bizarre imaging--not even close!

johnrellis

Legend

@cdquint: "AI generative remove doesn't seem to work well when there are multiple items to be removed."

In general, Remove doesn't have such problems. What's going on in your case is hard to say without seeing the unmodified photo.

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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