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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

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August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size.

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now.

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed.

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots.

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post:

App version
System details
Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

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dagboh

Participant

It would be cool if there was a one-click option to do AI removal actions that people might typically do. For instance, a button for "remove pedestrians" or "clean up telephone wires."

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björnr38703033

Participating Frequently

So i shoot some fine art nude, not pornographic in any way, but it is nudity. The first time i tried using the AI tool on these images it refused to work. But on some newly taken images it works just fine. I then thought AHA, they have now changed this insane limit on nudity and i can now make some AI adjustements to the first images i tried this a long time ago.. but no, those images are still "flagged" somehow by the system.

Since the newly taken images are ok, have they changed the limitations on nudity? If so, why doesnt the tool work on the older filea?

johnrellis

Legend

@björnr38703033: "Since the newly taken images are ok, have they changed the limitations on nudity? If so, why doesnt the tool work on the older files?"

Adobe Firefly's "safety" filters, like all such AI filters (including Google Gemini), are imperfect. It's pretty clear that Adobe and the other platforms would rather have too many false positives than false negatives, for legal and political reasons. So it could very possibly be coincidence that some of your older photos still get flagged and some of the newer ones don't. We'd need to test a larger test set to know confidently.

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Donaldm2

Participant

I tried to remove some electricity lines, but LR went quite bezerk. I selected with shift and select, but it did not select the line, but something in between (line nothing line nothing). the resulting removl did not take place, as it should.

Maybe a different department, but if i try to remove the lines 'normally' a white line remains. I expected a blue sky, like you get when removing a spot. The blacker/darker the spot or line the whiter the resulting spot/line becomes.

Donald

johnrellis

Legend

@Donaldm2: " I selected with shift and select, but it did not select the line, but something in between (line nothing line nothing)."

It sounds like you've got Detect Objects selected. Uncheck it -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and near the photo edges.

"if i try to remove the lines 'normally' a white line remains. I expected a blue sky, like you get when removing a spot."

You're probably applying Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask. Do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Donaldm2

Participant

Thanks,

yes, I probably used a mask. I didn't know that mattered... I'll check and report back.

Donald

Min E

Known Participant

Its mindblowing that Lr cannot remove this simple distracting light on the edge of the frame.

johnrellis

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@Min E: "Lr cannot remove this simple distracting light on the edge of the frame."

Remove quickly removed it from your screenshot:

1. Uncheck Detect Objects before selecting the object. It doesn't work very well, especially with objects near an edge of the photo.

2. If you've applied Crop, Transform, or Lens Corrections, temporarily undo them, do the Remove, then reapply them. Remove tries to match the unselected, cropped-out pixels.

3. If you haven't applied one of those cropping commands and you're editing a raw, let us know the precise make and model of the camera and I can provide a simple technique.

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brandonc27548190

Participant

Please bring back the option to toggle between photos when the remove tool is clicked and ther is nothing selected. It takes away from editing speed.

C.Cella

Inspiring

@brandonc27548190

Hold Alt/Option modifier and use arrow left/right to move the next or previous image when either Remove Panel or Masking Panel is open.

johnrellis

Legend

@brandonc27548190,:

You also have to use Alt/Opt Left/Right when other panels are active: Crop, Red Eye, White Balance, Tone Curve.

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Jack32501827kj3s

Participant

Bottom line... The AI removal tool is beyond incredible. It literally can save a photo! It works without issue about 99% of the time. Well done people!

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melaniem37974764

Participant

It feels like the earlier trial version of the Remove tool was better than the updated version, it doesn't seem to recognise the object I'm trying to remove and just presents a slightly different version of it. Previously it would be able to pick up that I was selecting out say a railing against a green bush backdrop and replace it with the green foliage, now it just reconfigures the bar. Am I missing something?

johnrellis

Legend

@melaniem37974764: "it doesn't seem to recognise the object I'm trying to remove and just presents a slightly different version of it."

Uncheck the option Detect Objects and then select the object you want removed. Detect Objects is on by default in LR 14, and it often doesn't work well.

Also, see this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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melaniem37974764

Participant

Thank you that's a really helpful sheet. I've just tried it and it seems to work better, think I wasn't selecting a big enough area around the object to remove. Many thanks for your help

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sb2314

Known Participant

Go back to the original without cropping, straightening, or editing. Then try it. It will work almost always. Do any editing or manipulations after erasing.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

I worked on the original raw image as a first edit as recommended in the prior posts. Whilst the original pylon disappears what is left in its place is a blurred section of mountains and some water. I attach the result which has been cropped so that you can the result clearly. But I stress that no image manipulation was carried out prior to this.

johnrellis

Legend

It's hard to say what's going wrong for you without seeing the original unmodified photo -- share it via any of the free options of Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive, Onedrive, etc.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

I am struggling to remove unwanted objects from my images and thought that Generative Remove would be the answer. Specifically I want to get rid of power lines against a sky background and electricity pylons against a mountain backdrop. Am getting some pretty weird results where I would have thought that it would have been a pretty simple operation. It's possible that I am using the incorrect tools within the Adobe suite? Any help would be gratefully received.

johnrellis

Legend

@johns9744233: "I want to get rid of power lines against a sky background and electricity pylons against a mountain backdrop. Am getting some pretty weird results"

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

johns9744233

Participating Frequently

Hi John, I've taken the liberty of cropping the image as it would be outside of your upload parameters.

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Brauneddy

Participant

Hello,

I have following issues with the removing tool.

On the left side is the roof of a house. First attemts with AI was transforming the roof what is a bit weird as I chose removing. However it got better later but still remaining the roof form in a kind of negative version. Please see screenshots.

What am I doing wrong?

Best regards

Alex

johnrellis

Legend

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@Brauneddy, in the first screenshot showing a selection:

you didn't select all of the building. If you were using the Detect Options option, it often doesn't do well with objects on the edge of the photo -- turn it off.

The ghost roofs are caused by applying Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask:

Do Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask, and the ghost should go away.

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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