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Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.
Update (August 2025) With the new release, the Generative Remove Engine has been updated.
See this video for details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwpUX4b6igY
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@kenjowen: "really, really, awful for stars, milky way and aurora replacemnet when i just attempted to remove a power line"
Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
I found this extreme example photo via Google, and Remove did a decent job of removing the power lines and the tower:
@kenjowen: "removing something to match the Bokeh in portraits - the result is awful."
Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot) showing the problem.
Here's an example where Remove did a good job of removing a distracting line from the bokeh background of a portrait:
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@defaultt4hs2n2vd37h: "Generative remove failed. We encountered an issue with your results. Please view our guidelines and try again"
Right, that unhelpful error message is issued in response to trying to apply Generative Remove to a photo that the Firefly service (underlying Generative Remove) thinks violates Adobe's "guidelines". You can find those guidelines (restrictions) by clicking on the tiny ? button:
Lots of people have complained here that Generative Remove has too many false positives while identifying images that don't comport with the guidelines. Adobe, like the other major AI providers, is scared of the political fallout that would occur if their platforms were used for pornography (especially child pornography) and other "socially harmful" purposes. So they tune their automatic detection algorithms conservatively, erring on the side of too many false positives.
I have a plugin that uses Google Gemini to analyze images, and Gemini also has way too many false positives for pornagraphy.
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@RM Photography: "The AI remove tool used to give me seamless extended backdrops but lately there is a clear indication of where the brush starts and ends ... it was NOT always like this! But in the last few weeks it has been happening to my images almost every time I attempt to do this."
Generative Remove has always had problems matching uniform gradients -- there are many posts about that in this thread going back to last October and in the previous beta thread last summer. You've just been unlucky recently in tripping over it.
I've included below a full list of techniques that often (but not always) ameliorate the problem. Here are two ways that worked using your sample raw:
1. Apply Denoise to remove the noise. Then Remove. Then use Heal tool with shorter strokes and feathering = 100 to blend the replacement boundary:
Remove:
Heal:
Result:
2. Select the entire background including a little bit of the plants along the edge of the background:
The Remove boundary isn't visible, but because I selected the edges of the plants, Remove generated a larger bunch of flowers. A second Remove can replace them with more background:
Final result:
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Many have observed here that the replacements made by Generative Remove sometimes don't match the photo's tone or noise. To get better matches, these techniques sometimes help:
1. Adobe recommends applying Denoise before Remove. This can reduce the noise, making it more likely the replacement will match.
2. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Try removing smaller selections if possible.
3. Conversely, try making a larger selection, even including the entire background. Upscaling of the replacement sometimes won't be noticeable then.
4. Sometimes there's a distinctly visible boundary where the tone or noise don't match. You can often use the heal tool around the boundary to get better feathering and make it less noticeable -- apply Heal in small brush strokes. Or use a Brush mask with maximum feathering, dropping local Texture, Clarity, and Sharpness to their minimum values. Sometimes, making a very raggedy selection around the object makes the boundary less noticeable.
5. For grain/noise in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back or reducing the grain:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...
I much prefer the old version. I dislike this upgrade very much
By @crystal_allan0231
There has been no upgrade.
If you find that Generative Remove is NOT giving you the results you want then you best chance is to file a bug report and attach some sample images.
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Adobe can collect them and train the MachineLearning to do better.
Or you can share examples here.
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@Carlie26372870bwcy: "My generative AI seems to be adding items (random buttons, baby doll heads) NOTHING to do with the image."
Remove does a good job with your screenshot:
To use Remove more effectively:
1. Uncheck Detect Objects before brushing a selection -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.
2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
3. Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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