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Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.
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My first impression is that it is flat-out horrible. I have tried it many times, and it just does not remove unwanted objects. What is seen in the video on the old West set is something I cannot duplicate. My latest attempt was an image of a white tablecloth upon which is part of a fork and a keychain. I try to remove the fork part, but all I get are different versions of a fork. Back to PS it is.
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@stevefry77: "My latest attempt was an image of a white tablecloth upon which is part of a fork and a keychain. I try to remove the fork part, but all I get are different versions of a fork."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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Most of the time, the remove tool is comically bad. It's better in Photoshop, but in Lightroom its unusable, I export everything to photoshop. Lightroom is becoming an organisational tool, not much more.
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@newplasticmachine: "the remove tool is comically bad."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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It seems to work fine for me:
All three variations were acceptable. A screenshot showing your actual brush stroke might be helpful in troubleshooting.
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My brush stroke was precisely like yours, but the generative remove automatically made it 3 times the width, which the article seemed to imply was the proper way to do things.
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When "Detect Objects" is deselected, I still get unsatisfactory results. I tried both the original RAW and the JPG. And when I use the settings in your photo, I get an entirely different behavior (red regions) the only way I can come close to replicating this is to use a brish size of 11 with Detect off, but still not satisfactory. This is truly strange IMHO. ALso included is the same proceedure I did in photoshop.
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@newplasticmachine, I may be missing something -- what's unsatisfactory about the first and third screenshots? They look like Rikk's results.
In general Detect Objects doesn't work well with long skinny things like poles and power lines, and I often find myself unchecking it. It results in selections that are too wide or disconnected or both, as seen in your second screenshot:
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The third example is perfect, but done in Photoshop.
The first example created some bizarre distortions. Look at the building above the V in the sign.
That's probably acceptable for family snapshots but not for photography.
The strange thing is how wildly different these results are on the same image and same settings but on different computers.
RIkk's version HAD "detect objects" selected and appears to have no issue.
When I had "detect objects" selected (on raw as well as jog), it behaved entirely differently.
I don't know why it's so different for me Lightroom vs Photoshop, but it is.
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@newplasticmachine: "The third example is perfect, but done in Photoshop. The first example created some bizarre distortions."
Got it, thanks.
It seems that the Remove tools in both PS and LR are quite sensitive to the width and placement of the selection over the pole. On the left is a fair bit of distortion from my first attempt in PS, and on the right is an example from LR that looks much better:
Regarding Rikk's screenshot, I'm skeptical that the selection shown in white outline was made with Detect Objects. I've never seen it make a selection like that with a perfectly rounded bottom -- that's the outline of a brush stroke made without Detect Objects. My experience with Detect Objects on lines and poles is that it always make a too-wide selection, often in disconnected pieces, just as you're experiencing.
Rikk, can you show us the red outline of the selection you made with Detect Objects?
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I guess it's kind of a random thing. I wonder how much a computer and possibly internet connection, influences the results.
FWIW I do baseline color correction in LRC, then export to PS to take advantage of all the tools in that program, then return to RC for the final minor tweaks.
One thing that I do wish could be done simply in Lightroom is to create custom borders. I put all of my photos in a white square, and I believe it can be done in the print module, but it's far easier to use the crop tool in PS.
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Good morning
Same comment as already read below: I was rtying to remove a leaf on a sold color sky and it was replaced by a smaller leaf (all three versions) . Sad result when one consider that previous version (yet called "testing version") was working perfectly well.
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@patrice26925415ukla: "I was rtying to remove a leaf on a sold color sky and it was replaced by a smaller leaf (all three versions) ."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, including people who think that Remove has changed for the worse in LR 14, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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When I try to remove something with the AI remove function of lightroom, instead of removing, all the proposals are to remplace. For example : instead of removing a car, it propose te replace by another car ! When I try to generate again, it still propose another car to replace !! It's a bug or to I have to modify a parameter ?
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@efficient_dancer5CC7 you can't do much about it.
I want to make an example:
Original photo
I refreshed and I got 0 success rate upon several tries.
I open the image in Photoshop and entered instruction "Street"
Failure again, I was no specific enough so Ai "thought" that "street" could have a car (makes sense tbh)
But in Photoshop I can add more instructions to guide the AI
So I wrote "Street, no cars"
Success !
One of the 3 versions works.
The other ones are silly, I got giant walking furry creatures.
• BUT in Photoshop at least one can guide the AI so at last we are not at total mercy of what AI "thinks" will work.
One way to have higher success rate would be to have instructions.
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This is a great working example. The car is casting a shadow that extends down to the bottom edge, and when you don't select the shadow too, Remove generates a replacement that tries to match the remaining shadow. Using the screenshot with the generated car, here's what happens when you don't select the shadow:
When you include the shadow, the first variant has replaced the car with matching buildings, wall, yellow curb, and street and even generated a reflection for the pole:
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@johnrellis but with instructions users could paint smaller holes AND have results.
Instructions help a lot.
Also this is another example of why having tips would help.
I used Object Detect and the tool very basically expanded the "real selection" by about 500 pixels...the tool didn't search for other meaningful/connected areas that should have been included in the selectio for the optimal result.
I did what any new user would have done using the tool the first time: I trusted the tool.
There was no indication whatsoever that the area auto selected was not enough.
Not tips or tricks to help.
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"There was no indication whatsoever that the area auto selected was not enough. Not tips or tricks to help."
Agreed. Object Detect isn't smart enough to know about shadows and reflections but the actual removal is. That difference causes lots of problems for users.
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@efficient_dancer5CC7: " instead of removing a car, it propose te replace by another car ! When I try to generate again, it still propose another car to replace !! "
See this article for more information on how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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I tried out the new option for remove objects. And it took out half of the subjects face. No worries, I turned it off again.
But now it is stuck on no matter what option the toggle switch is set to.
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It looks like the AI tool is mistakenly flagging my request to remove the dog leash from the photo as a ‘prompt violation.’ I’m not sure why it’s reading this simple photo edit as a rule-breaking request—it’s just a standard edit in pet photography, nothing harmful or inappropriate.
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Now I'm waiting for someone to tell you to include the shadow and expand the selection you're making in order to fix this lol