P: How do I batch edit Denoise (June Update) (LrC 14.4 & LrD 8.4)

[Billeba]

Lightroom Classic versjon: 14.4 
Operativsystem: Mac OS 15

As of this new version I am not able to denoise a batch of photos, only individual ones. Can't find any guidance as to how this can be fixed. Hope you can help me, thanks.

[Espen Frivold]

I often like to batch edit my photos. When I copy the edits from a picture to paste onto multiple pictures, the AI noise reduction doesn't work that often. This wasn't a problem before when you could just select all the noisy images, right click and click Enhance. Often when I copy the AI noise reduction in the batch edit, the images turn out pink and weird. After that I have to go through all the pink images and click *update AI settings*. I hope this gets fixed. Or if they bring the old enhance button after right clicking back. It would save a lot of time if you can queue all the noisy images for AI enhancement, and then let it work for some time, and come back and just focus on adjusting colours and all that. Thanks

[Richie Vitale]

I'm uisng 14.3.1 because the upgrade after that did NOT allow denoising for several files at once for some strange reason (unless I was mistaken but I couldn't find it). 

This is super-importatnt to my workflow and I am wondering if it is allowed now.

 

[johnrellis]

You can copy the Denoise setting to a batch of photos in the same way you copy any other Develop setting (e.g. Exposure): Copy/Paste Settings, Sync Settings, via presets, or Auto Sync (that last option is dangerous, beware).  For example, see:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-how-do-i-batch-edit-denoise-june-upda...

[johnrellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with the main thread on this topic:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-how-do-i-batch-edit-denoise-june-upda...

[Jo_Gryniewicz]

I started sweating as I shoot dog agility trials so I have hundreds of pictures to denoise, and I tend to fix them all first and then denoise them all. Thankfully, I just tested it and it works. Denoise the first picture, then press CTRL C (or copy), and in the window that appears, only select 'Detail', and then go select your batch to denoise, and press CTRL V. I almost had a heart attack thinking I'd have to do this all manually one by one!!  

[Law_ren_ce]

The problem with the Auto-Sync method is that you run the risk of syncing adjustments you didn't want to sync. And you might only see it later in the exported files. Or when a client complaints in a mail afterwards. All this often happens in the heat of the moment, under pressure. It is very possible. And a really time consuming to fix.

This risk was completely non-existing in the previous method. You could only apply AI Denoise to the selected photos. And now I'm reading you can't continue your work while the AI NR is being applied? That makes no sense at all. I'm a photographer, I'm working another photo job while LR is doing its thing.

All this seems to prioritize "let's make it more like photoshop" and not "let's give the professionals what they need in the field or when under a deadline". Shame, again.

[Saados]

I have the same problem, the only solution i found is to comeback to the previous version of lightroom

[dj_paige]

I have the same problem, the only solution i found is to comeback to the previous version of lightroom

By @Saados

There are many a solutions that don't require an earlier version of LrC. The solution is explained early in this thread: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-how-do-i-batch-edit-denoise-after-the...

[Saados]

They are many solutions, when you denoise  hundreds of pictures lightroom is blocked you can not work on other pictures while it s running the denoise work like in the lightroom version 14.3.1, and when the denoise is over and you edit denoised pictures when copy past or do the previous button it denoise a second time the picture... waist of time...

[Brendon35394275cfp5]

I agree very frustrating! yes you can try to paste the settings to denoise but as many have mentioned, you are unable to do any other work untill that has completed which can take some time. Previous version with the denoise function was much better, I really don't understand why the need to change it to something that is clunky

[dj_paige]

The problem with the Auto-Sync method is that you run the risk of syncing adjustments you didn't want to sync.

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All this seems to prioritize "let's make it more like photoshop" and not "let's give the professionals what they need in the field or when under a deadline". Shame, again.

By @Law_ren_ce

Professionals don't remember to turn off Auto-Sync? Shame.

There are many other ways to perform batch Denoise, explained earlier in this thread.

[Law_ren_ce]

If one process has zero risk of making a mistake and the other one has many, it's a significant difference between the two. 

And yes, professionals edit photos under time presure in the field, with the sun on their laptop screen or halfway through the night. Or you just get distracted. Introducing an extra risk nobody asked for, is not helping.

Are you also going to downplay the problematic fact that Lightroom now locks me out for 45 minutes or more when I apply AI Denoise to 700 photos, when in the previous LR version I could just continue working in Lightroom or cull through another set of photos? 

Or that it doesn't really save disk space, because you can't delete the DNG files after the final step of applying AI Denoise. All the AI Denoise data is now baked into the catalogue file.

And finaly: it's impossible to run different AI Denoise task at the same time - and again, let you work in Lightroom simultaneously, because a pop up appears and you get acces to Lightroom back if it finishes. Only THEN you can start the next batch. This would litteraly keep me awake longer if I need to finish photos with a delivery on the next morning.

[Ian Lyons]

@Law_ren_ce 

The new recommended order for applying edits is that Denoise, Raw Details and Super Resolution are carried out first. All other edits should be carried out afterwards, and ideally as shown in below link:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/ai-edit-status.html

[Law_ren_ce]

@Law_ren_ce 

The new recommended order for applying edits is that Denoise, Raw Details and Super Resolution are carried out first. All other edits should be carried out afterwards, and ideally as shown in below link:

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/ai-edit-status.html

By @Ian Lyons

Working on AI Denoised photos slows down the system considerably. So I have to choose between speed & performance but have possible errors or problems in masking or other AI edits....  or slow performance but no AI errors? Sounds promising. Eitherway, the order of edits doesn't fix the new issue of not being able to work on other sets of photos when LR is taking an hour to apply AI Denoise to hundreds of photos. And the another hour of non-activity again if you want to decrease or increase the AI Denoise. Time is not free for everyone.

[drtonyb]

@Law_ren_ce wrote

"And the another hour of non-activity again if you want to decrease or increase the AI Denoise."

Not true. After a photo is Denoised, the Amount setting can be adjusted, just like any other setting in LrC. For the previous Denoise DNG method, all photos in the batch got the same Amount of Denoise; to then change any of them in the batch to a different Amount required running Denoise again and creating a new DNG.

To be clear, the Enhance processing for a selection of photos (batch) applies the Enhancement to the Active photo first, then applies an AI Update to the remaining photos in the selection.

Whether it's feasible to run the new Enhance in the background, locking the selected photos from being edited, and allowing work to continue on other photos is up to Adobe to answer.

Rather than throwing away the code for the DNG method, it would have been wiser for Adobe to implement the non-destructive method in addition to the DNG method, allowing users to choose which method is appropriate to their workflow.

[Law_ren_ce]

"And the another hour of non-activity again if you want to decrease or increase the AI Denoise."

Not true. After a photo is Denoised, the Amount setting can be adjusted, just like any other setting in LrC. For the previous Denoise DNG method, all photos in the batch got the same Amount of Denoise; to then change any of them in the batch to a different Amount required running Denoise again and creating a new DNG.

I'm not talking about one photo, I'm talking about hundreds. With 14.4, I now need to use this method:

1/ enable Auto Sync

2/ select the photos I want to apply X value AI Denoise to

3/ click on the pre made preset that has a specific value of AI Denoise

4/ LR automatically applies this to all the selected photos - anything between 10 and 700 photos

5/ I'm locked out of my editing job, I can't do anything.

After waiting, I can check the results. If the AI Denoise was too weak or too strong, I need to start the process all over again. With Auto Sync still enabled and the same images still selected, when I slide the slider to a higher or lower value it is applied immediatly and the same waiting time while locked out starts again. There is no shortcut.

When I applied AI Denoise before this 14.4 update, I could check the photos that were already processed while it's working and stop the process if needed and indeed start over. Now I can't do anything, I have to wait untill it's over. I really get angry how Adobe decided to extend the time I need to spend on an assignment. This is what I get after paying my subscription for a decade? I find that unacceptable. This has not been tested in the most basis scenarios whatsoever. If the processing speed if the AI Denoise was magically increase by 500%, I would have understand it. But it's not. Not at all.

[Brendon35394275cfp5]

I agree, it takes much more time and makes no sense to change in the first place, as it worked perfectly!!!! So frustrating, not sure if people who make these changes even edit hundreds of photos a day like I do, this is my livelihood, and Adobe doesn't seem to care!!!

[Brendon35394275cfp5]

One of the issues I am running into is that even if you denoise them all at once, if you want to, then copy other settings to apply to all, it goes through the whole process again, which takes much more time. It's a flawed feature, especially since the previous version had no issues in the first place, so why make a feature change if it isn't going to be helpful or less time-consuming

[Brendon35394275cfp5]

This update regarding the changes to the Denoise function is very frustrating!!! There was no need to change the way this feature was used it was operating flawlessly and as many have mentioned this has drastically added time to my workflow. The denoise preview was also a big help in determining whether a photo even needed to be denoised as you could zoom in and and test whether denoise would truly enhance the photo. Someone from Adobe please bring this issue up with the team because this new update with this feature change is horrible!!!!!

[Christopher24721037g8ke]

Since the latest update, where denoise no longer creates a separate DNG file, I can no longer bulk denoise. I can only denoise one file at a time. Even if I select a collection of files then select denoise, only one files is enhanced... any thoughts welcome please!

[Bob Somrak]

Turn on AutoSync

[Christopher24721037g8ke]

Ah, thanks! I'll give that a try...

[Ian Lyons]

Did you not see the answer top of thread that's marked as correct or the pinned reply just below it? 

[Christopher24721037g8ke]

Thank you for the lovely tone of your contribution... I would have if my search had brought me to this thread. My question was moved here my the moderators from another post!

[Robmuc]

I have the following weird problem with regards to batch denoise function since the latest update: I am following the workflow of denoising one picture, then copy/pasting the edit settings to several other pictures I want to denoise. Everything looks like it is working normally during processing, but at the end the denoised pictures look like several pictures have been combined during the process (layers of objects from different pictures appear like pasted into the processed one) and the colors are completely off. An error message tells me to "update AI settings" on every single "denoised" picture and after doing so by clicking on ok processing starts again and everything looks fine afterwards for that picture. No batch processing is possible this way because I end up fixing each single picture individually anyways afterwards, aboslutely anyoing..

Anyone knows what is happening here and how to fix it?

Using Lightroom Desktop v8.4 on Windows 11.