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February 10, 2022
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P: (Mac 11.x) ICC Custom Profiles Are Missing

  • February 10, 2022
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MacOS Big Sur 11.6.4

Current Lightroom CC

 

For YEARS my ICC Profiles have been located in user side ColorSync folder and worked fine. No problems ever, when using the Develop Module Soft Proofing and the Print Module Color Management. 

Selecting and deSelecting "Other" is not allowing my installed ICC profiles to be used!

 

Over the past few days I've done a handful of troubleshooting i.e. reinstalling print drivers and downloading different ICC profiles just to see if they will show up.

 

Any suggestions for a fix?

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Correct answer martynm4430808

Had the same problem. Just downloaded Big Sur update 11.6.5 today 17th March 2022 and problems with Photoshop and lightroom now all ok. Martyn

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Inspiring
January 2, 2024

I know this is an old discussion, but the problem is still out there.   I have it and I'm running OS X 14.2.1 (Sonoma) and current versions of light room, and Photoshop as of this date (JAN 2,2024).

 

I just got off the phone with Epson support, and their recommendation, which worked, was to reinstall my printer. That did the job, but as you know any custom settings for the previous printer were lost when I did that.

 

The issue is with Epson, and not Adobe or Apple. Epson is now storing their standard Epson paper, ICC profiles in the printer profile folder in the system library, not in the Colorsync profiles folders (system and user).  On my computer that path looks like: Macintosh HD/Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter2/ICCProfiles/ .  When I write clicked on one of the .profiles files in that folder and selected "Show Package Contents", I found all my Epson paper profiles.

 

I asked Epson Support if I was going to have to reinstall the printer every time there was a significant OSX update, and they said "yes".

 

I don't understand why Epson has taken this approach because it's causing so much grief for all the Epson users, but I did find a possible long-term solution in this blog post: https://blog.conradchavez.com/2020/11/22/printer-profiles-missing-on-macos-a-permanent-solution/

 

The author recommends locating the profiles folder, creating an alias to it, and then putting that in the Colorync profiles folder. That way the Adobe applications can find the Epson profiles.

 

I know this thread is marked as solved, but I don't think it really is. I found it today looking for a solution before I called Epson and thought I would help readers who find this later to know what I learned.

Participant
April 15, 2024

Thank you!! This is definitely still a problem, especially with older printers and constantly updating operating systems. Creating an alias is a great addition too. 

Inspiring
March 16, 2023

I use macOS Big Sur 11.6 but have had a hard time loading a new printer profile.  I can see the new profile in /Library/ColorSync/Profiles but Photoshop won't load it.  I tried so many different things and this work-aroun seems to work.

 

I used the Superuser in Linux window.  Here are my steps:

 

Open a Terminal window

cd /Library/ColorSync/Profiles
sudo mv LargeFormat.icc BU_LargeFormat.icc   (you need your password at this step)
sudo mv MetalPrintsICCProfile.icc LargeFormat.icc
 
To explain the above steps:
LargeFormat.icc is an existing icc that loads on Photoshop
MetalPrintsICCProfile.icc is the new icc I want to load but couldn't 
I backed up LargeFormat.icc to BU_LargeFormat.icc, then
"Copy" the content of the new icc to the existing icc
Open Photoshop, now when you load LargeFormat.icc, it's actully MetalPrintsICCProfile.icc
 
Hope this helps.
Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023
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I use macOS Big Sur 11.6 but have had a hard time loading a new printer profile.  I can see the new profile in /Library/ColorSync/Profiles but Photoshop won't load it.  I tried so many different things

By @JD712


Which version specifically do you have? The earlier posts establish that macOS fails to load the profiles in macOS Big Sur 11.6.2 through 11.6.4, but the versions before and after that work properly, for example macOS 11.6.5 fixes the problem.

Inspiring
March 24, 2023

I'm running Big Sur 11.6 without any extra extension.  So that's probably before 11.6.1 I assume. I can see the ICC profiles in the libraray folder but not in PS.

george@langestudio
Participant
June 8, 2022

I just spent a good part of a day trying to figure out where the ICC profiles dissappeared to when I tried to print on my Canon Pro 1000 from an IMAC running Monerey 12.3.1 and Photoshop CC updated.  The answer was to remove the printer and add it again in system preferences.  I was getting hung up in Color Sync not being able to repair ICC profiles - which turns out was irrelevant.  Adobe was clueless. Apple was clueless.  Canon had the simple solution.  Although I then found Epson offered the same advice. Whenever you upgrade your IOS you should do this and all will work fine.

Participating Frequently
October 6, 2022

same printer, Canon pro 1000 After an update to the lateest monterey and the latest photoshop 2022,, and the latest canon driver, and doing the above procedure including reset printer system, my favorite paper profile is visible to choose in the print dialog box ( photoshop maages color)  but the print settinigs button is dead. It only dead  with this particular profile which had worked fiine in Big Sur.

Suggestions welcomed.

maucamo
Inspiring
October 6, 2022

I think the issue is due to ColorSync and canon driver. If I use some rip that can bypass the driver (ie Mirage), iccs work without any issue 

martynm4430808
martynm4430808Correct answer
Participant
March 17, 2022

Had the same problem. Just downloaded Big Sur update 11.6.5 today 17th March 2022 and problems with Photoshop and lightroom now all ok. Martyn

Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 17, 2022

That's right...the problem was specifically with macOS Big Sur 11.6.2 through 11.6.4. Any versions before or after that range are OK.

maucamo
Inspiring
April 8, 2022

On Montgomery I had the issue. If you can see the profile on ColorSync, it cannot be see inside Lightroom 

Participant
March 4, 2022

Just added this to another thread. It may be of interest here too

Can I add something here that may be of use/interest. 

I had problems with ICC Profiles never appearing on my Mac (Monterey on Apple Silicon M1 Pro) when installing an Epson ET-8550 printer. After much searching, and a lot of help from other users, I finally got through to Epson Technical Support who advised that I had to install, as a separate exercise, the printer again from System Preferences. This gave me a duplicate Printer - I could (and did) delete the original one. 

I must stress the profiles were not installed, ie they were not visible in ColorSync or in Finder, until I did this exercise.

I've written the steps up here - https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/65978987

Hope this helps others who have been perplexed by not seeing ICC profiles after installing Epson printers on MacOS (Monterey) on Apple Silicon M1.

georgem78022325
Participant
February 19, 2022

My icc printer profile does not show up in the list of "Other" in the Color Management window, even though it is in the Library/ColorSync/Profile folder - both the general and user specific one. Help?

Bob Somrak
Legend
February 19, 2022

If you are using MacOS 11.6.2 or higher than that is the issue.  Apple broke ICC printer connections.  You have to Upgrade to 12.2.1 or downgrade to 11.6.1.  

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB
Participant
February 22, 2022

Hi there!

i am using Mac OS 12.2.1 Monterey and i am trying to use my icc profiles, printing with Photoshop 2022.

The profiles don´t show up in the Color Managment.

In the www i didn´t find any answer why the icc profiles in the ColorSync folder are just blank (no color wave image) and no answers yet why the icc profiles don´t show up in the Photoshop drop down menu.

Any idea how to fix this?!

Thanx a lot!

Bob Somrak
Legend
February 18, 2022

Printer profiles have been broken since macOS Big Sur 11.6.2 It works in 11.6.1 and Monterey 12.  

M4 Pro Mac Mini. 48GB
Participating Frequently
February 18, 2022

Good lord - I'm in BIG trouble!

 

So we're waiting on an Apple Fix or Adobe to change something? Is there any sort of work around? Oddly enough, If I download and install other types - some show up and others do not.

JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
February 18, 2022

@Bending Light wrote:

Good lord - I'm in BIG trouble!

 

So we're waiting on an Apple Fix or Adobe to change something? Is there any sort of work around? Oddly enough, If I download and install other types - some show up and others do not.



@Bending Light wrote:

Good lord - I'm in BIG trouble!

 

So we're waiting on an Apple Fix or Adobe to change something? Is there any sort of work around? Oddly enough, If I download and install other types - some show up and others do not.



Apple already fixed it in Monterey, but it is unlikely they will fix bugs in an older version of MacOS.

 

-- Johan W. Elzenga
Known Participant
February 12, 2022

Some -- but not all -- of my printer profiles don't appear in Lightroom's "Choose Profiles" dialog (that I get to either from the Develop module > Softproofing or the Print module > Color Management > Profile > Other). I think this "disappearing" happend when I (rather recently) upgraded my MacOS to Big Sur. 

 

Details:

 

Here's what I see in the Choose Profiles dialog (and this is the full list that appears; no scrollbar): 

There are a whole bunch of ICC profiles that "should" be there, but there are two that I specifically want.

1) ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/MUSEO_ARTIST_CARDS_EPSON_3880MK (PPM_Quality).icm

Which you can see here:

My understanding is that any ICC profile in this directory "should" appear in the list. 

 

And 2) /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/Epson Stylus Pro 3880_Hahnemuhle Bamboo.icc, which you can see here:

All of the other Hahnemuhle ICC profiles in this directory (and the one Illford profile) do appear in the list. But with one weird exception: /Library/ColorSync/Profiles/HFA_Eps3880_MK_Agave-Sisal.icc (the second Hahnemuhle profile in the list above), which I added more recently than the others. 

 

Also puzzling (although not a particular concern right now) is that of all the Epson profiles here, Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter2/ICCProfiles/Pro3880.profiles/Contents, only the four "Legacy" paper profiles appear in the Choose Profiles pick list. You can see these Epson profiles here:

ALL of these profiles have appeared in my Choose Profiles pick list in the past. It seems like it was my upgrade to Big Sur that caused all these profiles to disappear. 

 

My versions:

  • Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 11.1
  • MacOS Big Sur 11.6.2

 

Any ideas?

 

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
February 12, 2022

It is a bug in that version of OS X and has been discussed here a number of times. You either need to downgrade a version or upgrade to 12.X as 11.6.3 is still buggy.

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Known Participant
February 12, 2022

Thanks, @TheDigitalDog! I've found a bunch of posts where folks didn't know where to put the profiles, but have't seen any mentions of 11.6.3 being buggy.  So, thanks!  I've got some other software that'll likely break if/when I move to 12.X. But, I want my ICC profiles! 🙂 So, I'll bite the bullet...  Many thanks. 

Participating Frequently
February 10, 2022

I am not new to printing or solving issues related to magenta casts to prints from LR or Photoshop, but this one has me stumped.  I recently had the issue of the missing Epson ICC profiles which could only be solved by upgrading to MacOS 12.2.  The profiles that went missing were the Epson Glossy and the Premium Luster profiles.  This may have nothing to do with my issue but it was a recent annoyance.  

1) When I print using Epson Exhibition Fiber Paper with the ICC profile, the prints come out fine.  There isn't a magenta cast.  

2) When I switch to Epson Premium Luster with the ICC profile, I get the magenta cast.  

3) Now to add more craziness to the mix, if I use Epson Premium Luster paper and choose "Printer Manages Color", I also get the magenta cast.  (No ICC profile)

4) If I use the Premium Luster paper and choose the Epson Exhibition Fiber Paper ICC profile, the prints do not have a magenta cast.  

I have unistalled/re-installed Epson print drivers/software in addition to upgrading to MacOS 12.2.  What should I look at next?  Please note that the print settings in Lightroom and Photoshop correctly uses the ICC profile with Photoshop/LR manages colors.  I am not double managing profile settings.

Thanks!

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
February 10, 2022

Start from scratch and make a new, virgin Print Template and configure everything in Lightroom Classic's color management AND the Epson print driver (correctly) for Luster. Test again, any different?

NEVER pick an Epson driver preset, always select Default Settings as seen below in LR:

 

Lastly, if you test this in Photoshop with Luster, is it OK or not?

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Participating Frequently
February 10, 2022

I always use the Default Settings versus a Print Template.  I went back to confirm that this was the case and reprinted.  I still have the problem.   I also see the magenta cast issue in Photoshop w/Luster ICC profile.  

 

I was able to print on another P800/ MacOS system (at school) but did not see the issue on that printer.  While at school, I was able to compare all the prints from my system and the schools under correct even lighting.  The thing that really has me thrown is that the exhibition fiber paper and profile are ok.  

Other Things:

I have also checked the nozzles on my printer and they appear ok.  My cyan ink is getting low and will need to be replaced soon.