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After the introduction of the generative AI non of the spot removal tools work well anymore. They don't really remove spots or other small deistractions (sensor dust, straws of gras in the foreground, short plane tracks in the night sky) anymore, only making them a little less visible. They are alwys still visible afterwards, just a little less visible. Doesen't matter ehich tool I choose and aöso generative AI doesen't do a better job.
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Your description suggests that you've applied the Generative AI, Clone, Heal tools to an image with an AI mask. You can easily check whether this is the case or not by looking for a red dot below the Masks icon on the toolbar. If red dot is present, then you'll need to 'Update the AI Mask'. See atatched screenshot.
To avoid the same issue in future, it's best to apply the Remove tool before creating an AI mask.
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Thanks for your suggestion. I was indeed using AI maks. But updating them made no change. So I completely reset an image and tried again. Still got the problem as you can see in the screenshots.
That's the original image:
With the normal remove tool:
With the AI remove tool:
With the healing tool:
With the clone tool:
As I wrote, other things like sensor dust, hot pixels, airplane tracks, ... suffer from the same issue.
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Thanks for your reply. My problem is, that all remove tools don't work properly anymore. They all don't remove objekcts correctly anymore and only kind of tone them down. This even happens also for small areas like hot pixels.
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@kernto Check the Opacity slider for each of your repairs. It sounds like it's turned down, whereas it should be at 100 for complete removal.
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Thanks a lot for your help, I guess that was the solution.
I guess I should have nitced that myself😅
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Adjacent photos shot in burst. I removed 2 people, 1 van, copped final. Generative remove worked well, except for the slogan on the wall about South Africa for a free Palestine. The parts of the slogan got mashed into something unreadable, so that necessitated more cropping than I had originally wanted to do.
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Ayer estaba trabajando bien, pero hoy (junio 1) no, no elimina las manchas ni copia de un lado a otro. Supongo que hicieron una actualización.
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In applying Generative AI to complex item in several very similar photos, the Generative results are rarely, if ever duplicatable. I have not found any way to replicate paint and generate, it appears random
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@lockephotography: "Especially when removing an object that has sky behind it, a very obvious shadow of the object is left in the sky. So I can't even use the generative remove feature when this happens. In the image attached, you can see the person on the far right that I tried to remove."
Do Settings > Update AI Settings. See here for more information:
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Works great with small object in the background but anything large or close to object that has similar color didn't work so well.
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I select the object I want to remove, it goes throught the Generative process, but doesn't remove. Just leaves a white outline around it.
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IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. You circle the object, hit the 'subtract' option (or the add), hit apply and NOTHING HAPPENS. I'm left with an object with white lines around it.
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@chuckw19823004: "IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. You circle the object, hit the 'subtract' option (or the add), hit apply and NOTHING HAPPENS. I'm left with an object with white lines around it. "
The white lines around the object results from having Tool Overlay set to Always. If you set it to Auto, then the lines will appear only when the mouse is over the image.
You don't "circle" the object, you paint completely over and around it. I took your screenshot and used the options Generative AI + Object Aware to completely remove the girl and the white lines. The first attempt replaced rather than removed the girl, trying to match the shadows and reflections in the water below here. So as the article above explains, I refined the selection to include the shadows and reflections, and the girl was removed. Then I included the white lines, and they disappeared too.
See the attached screen recording.
If this still doesn't help, then upload the original photo to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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I used a different photo to not post personal photos of my grandchildren online. Didn't just circle, shaded the whole area. Sames result after hitting 'apply'. just a white line. Here's the original photo.
One thing I noticed after reviewing your MP4 - my photo does not have the little symbol inside the shaded area, everything else looks exactly as yours - MAC with M1, LRC Adobe.
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@chuckw19823004, using your sample fountain photo, I got very good results. As Victoria suggested, it seems your opacity slider may not be set to 100:
When I use the Object Aware option to select just the ice chest, it gets replaced with some concrete to maintain the visual presence of the shadows (otherwise, the shadows would look pretty weird!):
If I refine the selection to include the shadows and a little more generous area around the ice chest, as recommended in Victoria's article, it eliminates the shadows and doesn't generate that extra concrete:
If I set the Opacity slider to 1, then the replacement mask generated by Remove becomes completely transparent (invisible), showing the original photo with the ice chest underneath. This matches what you've been observing.
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That did it! Per other posts, I found if I did not enlarge the area enough, it replaced with another similar object. thanks for all your help
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Check your opacity isn't too low.
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Está incrivel, caminhamos para soluções de grande qualidade. Parabéns!
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I love that this is now in LR, which is great for quick fixes.
I do however find that when objects you want removed extend to the edge of the image, this tool does not handle them well. It feels like it thinks that I have not selected all of the pixels despite me using the eraser tool to the edge and beyond. Almost like there is a feathered selection when you get to the edge of the image. I have tried with "Object Aware" turned on and off, without any improvement. I have also tried several varriations of selections and refreshed the results. The problem is persistant.
Heal isn't doing much better. It keeps trying to blend the original color of the object into the final result.
I'll go back to Stamp for this one, but I do not think that most LR users will want to use these tools this way.
I think an improvement would be for us to tell the AI tool we want to "Remove" or "Replace" (or similar).
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Using your low-resolution screeshot, Generative AI + Object Aware did a good job of removing the object first try:
Did you crop the photo first, with the lower-left blob having more pixels out-of-crop? If so, then as the article above explains, Remove applies to the uncropped image, and will try to match the selected area to the out-of-crop pixels.
If that doesn't help, please upload the original image (uncropped) to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar, and post the sharing link here.
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After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise and was appalled at how slow DeNoise was after using several objects with Generative Remove. I'd rather take the image into Photoshop to remove distractions than to put up with the amount of time to finish my photo in Lightroom.
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After using the Generative Remove tool to remove some objects, I went to DeNoise
isn't the recommendation to do AI DeNoise first, before other adjustments?