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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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The big difference resides in that Generative AI introduces pixels from outside your photo, while all the other tools you mentioned exert their action inside it, without adding anything: you may clone out the beer can but the pixels you are using are being copied from some other part of the same photo. After using Generative AI, even only to remove a spot, what you have is a composite image, not a photo anymore. And it is not 100% yours, as some part of it has been "created" or pasted from some other photo. And according to the Terms of Use : "Adobe may attach or publish Content Credentials for content created with generative AI features to let people know it was generated with AI". This is why it is important that Adobe indicates very, very clearly which tools use Generative AI, so that each one of us can choose if using it or not. The June 10th 2024 help notes suggest that Remove Brush uses Generative AI even when it is unflagged. Presently it is unclear which tools use Generative AI, so the customers are being denied their choice. An option to disable all Generative AI functions would make it simpler.
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Still is problem to remove object in corners of picture.
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I have the latest Lightroom update 13.3.1 and I'm still noticing a problem with the new LR remove tool. On items in the corner of images, it doesn't remove the item. It consistently has tried to keep the item I'm selecting to remove and replace it with identical items. I've tried selecting a larger area and I get the same result. The photoshop version is much better but I do appreciate that this tool has been added to Lighroom as it does really help with several other elements I have tried to remove. I attached the original and the 3 options provided.
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Try temporarily removing any crop you may have applied and turn off lens corrections. Both can cause the issue you show. The crop and lens corrections can be reapplied after you've used Generative AI Remove.
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wow! It works amazing well for me!
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Admittedly, it can be hit or miss in terms of actually removing an object rather than replacing it with another object but often times after a few revisions and variations I could get the result I wanted. Lately it removes what I want it to, but you can still see the outline of what I removed in like a bright haze of sorts and you can't get the outline to remove for ANYTHING. It only started doing that in the last maybe 5 days or so. But it's a pain and I end up having to remove in Photoshop anyway which is a bummer.
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The haze you refer to maybe the result of applying 'Generative AI remove' to an image that has an AI based mask. This is denoted by a red dot under the 'Masks' icon on the toolbar. If this is the case, then you can fix the issue by using the 'Update AI Settings', which can be found in the Develop module Settings menu or as shown in attached screenshot.
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My experience so far is this feature is pretty lame. As others have reported, it doesm't actually remove the object and fill in the background; it replaces the object with some random blob or blobs.
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@redb0xster, temporarily remove any crop and disable Lens Corrections and Transform. Include a generous boundary around the object, including any shadows or reflections, and then it should be replaced with background (removed) rather than with another version of the object. See this article:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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The biggest update ever since adding the generative fill!!!I've noticed it does better when selecting in parts. I love that I don't need to spot heal in Photoshop as much.
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It's probably an early implementation bug but FYI, when using the new remove tool I''ve found instances of it properly removing an object (cable) from an image in the LRC interface (image 1) but if that same image is synced to the web, on the published version the removal shows some obvious irregularities (image 2.)
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Generative AI removal feature works most of the time pretty well. In a few instances, however, it replaced people with other people instead of filling in the surrounding background. New additions had a rather creepy appearance.
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@Unicorneu: "In a few instances, however, it replaced people with other peoplei"
Temporarily remove any crop and disable Lens Corrections and Transform. Include a generous boundary around the object, including any shadows or reflections, and then it should be replaced with background (removed) rather than with another version of the object. See this article:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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il programma genera nuovi soggetti simili a quello che vorrei togliere, invece io vorrei SOLO togliere il mio soggetto senza generarne di nuovi. grazie
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Have a look at below linked tutorial. It demonstrates how to use the tool to remove rather than replace.
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I realize this is a radical suggestion, but perhaps a tool that does not really remove objects should not be called the Remove tool???
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If you don't remove the shadows, refelections, projections, etc associated with the object you're trying to remove, then the AI model will try to replace it with something that would cause the shadows, etc.
Another issue that can occur is not removing an object at the edge of the frame or corner. This may be due to the image having been cropped prior to the Generative AI Remove being applied and/or lens corrections. Temporarily disabling the crop or lens corrections can often resolve the issue.
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@redb0xster, Remove does usually work in corners. Did you disable Lens Corrections and Transform before doing the Remove?
If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Cannot even get close to the results I get in Photoshop with Generative AI in Lightroom Classic. It always seems to want to add new elements ... not remove them. Trying to remove the edge of a tree on the side of my frame, and it wants to insert new leaves.
Excited about this, but it needs A LOT OF WORK to be production ready.
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@besler: "Trying to remove the edge of a tree on the side of my frame, and it wants to insert new leaves."
Temporarily remove any crop and disable Lens Corrections and Transform. Include a generous boundary around the object, including any shadows or reflections, and then it should be replaced with background (removed) rather than with another version of the object. See this article:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Thanks. Hopefully that'll be fixed down the road ... I shouldn't have to remove a crop, disable Lens Corrections and Transform in order to do that correctly. Oftentimes cropping is the first thing I do, and I don't know what needs to be removed with Generative AI until that step is done.
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Very much agree -- it's creating a lot of confusion, as evidenced by all the posts here. At the very minimum, it should warn you if you've got a Crop, Lens Correction, or Transform applied.
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@besler how would you envisage it working regarding the crop? Should it temporarily clear the crop when you open the Remove tool? Or only partially remove an object that's partially cropped?
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