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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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@Carthie: "peripheral objects that are only partially in the image are often not removed but modified"
The photo Original.jpg has been significantly cropped (2000 x 1333 from a 8256 x 5504 raw). So it appears that you were applying Remove to a cropped raw. The general rule is to Remove first, then Crop. See this article for details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
And see my recent post with screen recordings illustrating the same issue:
When I use Remove on your Original.jpg (exported from the cropped raw and containing no cropped-out pixels itself), Remove removes the red object perfectly:
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Absolutely love it BUT, please make the CLONE stamp work the same as Photoshop (ie) select brush size, select item to clone, click alt and clone away!
The Lightroom clone stamp has a mind of its own!
Thank you.
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@SADDLE-UP: "The Lightroom clone stamp has a mind of its own! "
Could you be more specific about how it's not working well for you? Full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) might be very helpful.
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LR's Clone and Heal continue to work as they have before. Clone copies the pixels from the source and pastes them into the selected location, while Heal tries to intelligently match texture, lighting, and shading and blend the repaired pixels into the selected location. They automatically select the source initially, but you can change that source by dragging it with the mouse. See the attached recording.
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Not really efficiate
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The new Generative AI feature is great. As we know in editing, time is EVERYTHING. The variations are very helpful. However, it would be awesome to feature objects/subjects such the masking option (e.g., select clothing, then allow AI to remove lint, whrinkles, etc.) Just a thought. Thanks again for all you guys do to improve the interface.
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Love the tool most of the time. But three times I was trying to get rid of a person and it replaced it with a cat? Like what? Second like ten times now when trying to remove an object it replaces it with a trash can. I even include the shadow when masking. I don't know why it seems to want to give me cats and trash cans. It is kind of funny but definitely needs to be fixed
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@defaultzsvgghqk9zs6: "But three times I was trying to get rid of a person and it replaced it with a cat?"
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Absolutely impressed each and every time I have used this feature. Nails it first time the vast majority of times I have used it. Have only had to use refresh a couple of times. I like it!
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Does anyone have an issue when the Denoise facility is used after the remove tool?
i have found it resamples tge area with less impressive results to the initial action
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As recommended in the notes provided at top of thread (copied below for easy reference), denoise should be carried out before using Generative AI Remove
"he recommended order for applying is: Denoise - Heal (includes Generative AI Remove) - Crop/Edit - AI Selective edits. If you deviate from that you may see the removed object remains as a ghost image. If this occurs you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu."
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I think it is very helpful. But I agree with most people, it doesn't always remove properly. I think if you guys add an option to add or remove objet that the AI can reconize the request easily, than just asume that a little duck is better person in the background. (Yes, the AI added a duck to replace a person)
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@Kevin384309686zfj: "it doesn't always remove properly"
Almost all of the complaints with Remove replacing instead of removing are addressed by this article:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo and call out what you're trying to remove. Of the people who have done that in this thread, we've almost always been able to address the issue.
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Works OK for me. Just need to be paitent and redo it, if you want a better repair from the remove tool. It dose save time in most cases.
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Have used the removal tool several times on very basic objects and it continues to fail so I have to do it in Photoshop.
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@Alan3843523253g5: "Have used the removal tool several times on very basic objects and it continues to fail so I have to do it in Photoshop."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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Loving the generative AI remove tool. Here's some feedback that might help:
1. When you hit refresh to "generate again," it would better to add the new variations to the list of existing variations, rather than replacing them. (Sometimes the first results are better, but they're lost.)
2. It'd be nice to have an "on/off" preview switch when choosing the variation, to see how it compares to the original image. This would be especially useful when trying to remove a distracting object from a photo whilst ensuring the result is true to the original image.
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@paulmphotos: "When you hit refresh to "generate again," it would better to add the new variations to the list of existing variations, rather than replacing them. (Sometimes the first results are better, but they're lost.)"
Agreed -- Photoshop builds a list of all the generated variations (as thumbnails). A tip: When you see a variation you like, create a new Snapshot preserving it (Cmd/Ctrl N). Then in the Snapshot panel, you can hover the mouse over all the snapshots to quickly compare which one you like best. Not as convenient as PS's UI, but it gets the job done.
"an "on/off" preview switch when choosing the variation, to see how it compares to the original image."
Click and hold the eyeball icon in the lower-left:
Opt/Alt click it and it becomes a permanent toggle.
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"When you see a variation you like, create a new Snapshot preserving it "
That's a good workaround. I'll try it.
"Click and hold the eyeball icon in the lower-left"
I didn't see that! Thanks, it works a treat.
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@Matthieu384426282szr: "it ALWAYS create a new object when i just wanted to erase the bbq leaving the white wall naked"
Your screenshot suggests you used Object Aware to select the barbeque. Sometimes Object Aware leaves a bit of the object unselected, it doesn't include subtle shadows or reflections, or it doesn't use a large enough boundary around the object.
So the first thing to try when this happens is simply to click Refine and select a larger boundary around the object, which usually corrects the problem.
I was able to quickly remove the replacement and the white outlines from your screenshot:
See this article for additional advice on how to use Remove to more reliably remove rather than replace:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, please attach here a JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo. Nearly always there's a simple tip that will correct the issue.
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Yup that worked, but that erased some flowers and make it less natural on some variations (not that bad on this photo but on others that could be a down for me). Thank you !
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Remove AI does not wotk on an image that is HDR combined from three different exposures in lightroom