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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Adobe Employee ,
Apr 29, 2024 Apr 29, 2024

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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

This thread is now closed. Please update to LrC 14.x or LrD 8.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.



The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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Engaged ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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When trying to remove something sticking into an area of clear aky, GR seem to need to replace pixels with something/anything and doesn't do the obvious of just using the clear sky.

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Community Beginner ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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Thanks for your response, but is not working for me 

 

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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It doesnt remove the object, it replaces it with a random but similar object. It does the same for the concrete blocks in lower right of picture

 

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I FORGOT TO SAY - its the white car in the distance I am removing

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Adobe Employee ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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It is likely that there is too tight a selection and leaving some shadow or reflection behind. 

Screenshot 2024-05-22 at 2.31.46 PM.png

This was my first attempt on your image with the area shown for an example.  

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Thanks! yes, it appears I was going in too tight

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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You need to allow some room around the item you want to remove, and be sure to select the near invisible reflections/shadows

 

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Whoops! @Rikk Flohr: Photography  has already replied.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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That's ok - we had similar answers.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Thanks

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New Here ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Would be nice if I could use keyboard shortcuts to adjust brush size. Also would like the ability to click a button to committ the changes and then use the reset button if I need to revert back to all the individual changes.  

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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The left and right square bracket keys can be used to resize the brush.

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New Here ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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L'intelligence artificielle étant tellement forte maintenant , je ne vais pas prendre la peine d'écrire mon commentaire en anglais, il sera de toute façon facilement traduit . 

Que dire sur cette outil maintenant inclus à Lightroom , c'est presque le bonheure . 
J'utilisais souvent cette fonction sur photoshop et j'arrivais avec photoshop à faire en sorte que la correction soit parfaite. 

En effet la génération par IA n'est pas toujours parfaite si on zoom un peu sur l'image .
Sur une image comportant du bruit photo , on peut facilement se rendre compte que l'IA n'arrive pas à appliquer un bruit similaire sur la zone traitée . Avec photoshop il était facile d'isoler le calque pour en suite aller lui appliquer un filtre de bruit correspondant au reste de l'image et rendre la génération IA parfaite .

Cette fonction n'est pas présente sur Lightroom . Avoir la possibilité d'ajuster certains paramètres de l'image générée serait donc un trés gros plus . 

En tout cas je tiens quand même a dire un grand bravo pour l'ajout de cette fonction. 
Merci 

Simon 

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New Here ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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My experience with the new Generative Remove in Lightroom Classic is that it replaces the target object with an alternative object instead removing the target object as intended.  Continous attemps at Refresh only result in more replacement objects but no removal options.  

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Community Expert ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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You need to leave room around the item to be removed. This includes any shadows, reflections or projections. You could also review the posts on Page 6 from @Rikk Flohr: Photography and myself that explain and demonstrate how to make a selection that works as you expect.

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New Here ,
May 23, 2024 May 23, 2024

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Thanks for your reply Ian.  I have tried a variety of different photos / objects and tried applying a liberal amount of brush to cover any unseen shadows and still get the same result.  The AI replaces the target object instead of removing it.  Continued refreshing only results in more choices of a replacement object.  Any thoughts?

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New Here ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Habe das Generative entfenen mehrmals ausprobiert, doch es geschieht nichts. Der grüne Ladebalken läuft bis zum Ende, doch auch nach etwa 15 min tut sich nichts 😞
Bitte um Hilfe !

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Explorer ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I like the new generative remove tool. It has worked well in the several photos I've tested. It was able to eliminate things I wasn't able to get rid of in the past. 

I also like the decision to move the Tool Overlay section to the Remove Tool panel.

I had a problem in one photo where I wanted to remove a car and it kept replacing it with a different car. Perhaps add a checkbox or some way to indicate you want what's in the masked area removed or replaced to help the tool decide what it should do. 

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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I tried to remove a car from a picture and I selected remove. All it did was change it to another type of car.

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Adobe Employee ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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@clrussphotography  See this post: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...  and subsequent replies

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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That helped! Thanks!

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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The old repair tools works better for removing small portions of hair in a close-up portrait. The new Beta removing tool does recognize only parts of the hair I have marked. Sometimes Lightroom says "the is nothing to mark". I usually do a lot of retouching and detail repairing stuff of faces. Removing single hair is part of that. And for that the old removing tool worked much better.

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May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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My first use went great! Hopefully this before/after GIF will animate:F-14-GhostCat.gif

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Engaged ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Generative AI Remove produces two distinct types of content.  One type REPLACES a selected object in the photo with some other object.  For example, replaces a person with some other person or replaces the person with a dog or mailbox.  The other type REMOVES the selected object and fills in the vacated space with content that seems to be derived from the same image with the idea of showing what a reasonalbe person would believe would have been seen had that object not been present when the photo was originallty taken (content aware remove does similar but no where near as well).  In most traditional representational photography (landscape, travel, family, portrait, nature, etc.), the later case is the desired one.  

 

What this tool needs is a selecton where the user can indicate if they want their selected object REPLACED by a different object or if they want their selected object REMOVED by having background type content inserted into the vacated space. 

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Community Beginner ,
May 22, 2024 May 22, 2024

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Absolutely spot on. The seemingly random nature of whether you are going to get some object replace the one you are removing is the biggest failure of the Generative Remove feature both in Lightroom and Photoshop. A command to instruct the software to either replace the object with something else, or with the background that would have been there behind and around the object being removed is the one major missing feature in the whole Generative Remove / Replace feature. In essence it is brilliant but in practice it can be very annoying and at times totally unusable.

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