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The recommended order for applying edits is:
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@Gerald36453231giy4: "sometimes it just offer crazy replacements instead of just considering the surrounding background."
See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.
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A Remoção Gerativa também permite que você escolha entre várias variações, porem nao permite ainda que voce diga o que deseja , fiz um teste e ele me trouxe muitas variações mas nenhuma delas estava a contento.
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Great start! I love the addition of this tool to LRCC 13.3 - amazing that Adobe was able to slap this technology onto RAW files.
The first improvement that I see could be made is a feathering option for the selection. The transitions under light fall-off are still quite hard-edged and noticeable.
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Better seams and outlines is something we are working on.
Barry
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This is very good to hear.
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Sweet!
Doesn't work to start by defining an area with Clone tool, switch the already applied retouching to Remove and then turn on the Generative AI checkbox. It presents the usual progress bar, but does not produce a generative result. (LRC on M3 Macbook Pro running Sonoma on HEIC panorama from an iphone)
Would love to see you allow us to use it to fill the empty/white areas at the edge of an image after appling Transform features such as upright, but it currently can only work within the original image area.
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Hi, started using Generative remove today. I had taken a series of images and found that the sensor on a camera, not often used had been fungussed!? It was a great day and was disappointed that all the images were wasted. However, I found that Generative Remove has cut the work down in this instance quite dramatically, and saved the day, but it still onerous. Luckily the areas affected are block colour but in the more detailed areas I found that I needed to use a much smaller cursor size, but it worked, after a fashion.
Adjustable Feathering the cursor might help. I also had a glitch (hockey-stick glitch) every so often (pictures attached) which I could not explain - just went to undo and waited a few seconds. In addition, would it be possible to save the actions of Generative Remove as a mask that could be used on the other imagesof the same batch? Thats all. Thanks
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Using Generative Remove for spot removal is not recomended as it is much slower than using the standard heal tool.
Please refer to the FAQ provided by Adobe for guidance on whcih of the Remove tools is bested suited to particular tasks.
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/using/generative-remove-faq.html
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Hola, solo queria saber si esto consume creditos firefly porque parece que cada vez que lo uso en lightroom esta consumiendo. es correcto?
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Merci pour la description de la procédure à suivre, le résultat est là et plutôt convaincant !
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Great feature. I would love feathering, as well as the object rectangle selection for this tool. After a few times the Refresh option is missing.
I don't see any information in the documention/responses about what de-selecting the checkboxes "Generative AI" and "Object Aware" do. Is it correct that you must also uncheck the latter to remove that person/object/etc.? Maybe some people do not see that. Being aware of selecting everything etc., I had an issue with removing an intruding elbow from the border on a non-cropped image.
Selecting a person's glasses with "Object Aware" off, I get the person without her glasses which is the purpose. However, the person eyes looks at the camera now, from an extreme angle and the eyes are weird (too big, ugly, angrilly) every time. There should be at least some variations with the eyes looking as the original.
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@ThierryH: "I don't see any information in the documention/responses about what de-selecting the checkboxes "Generative AI" and "Object Aware" do. Is it correct that you must also uncheck the latter to remove that person/object/etc.?"
No, the two options are independent. The Generative AI option says to use the new Adobe Firefly service to generate a replacement for the selection. The Object Aware option controls how to make the initial selection -- when unchecked, it's exactly what you've brushed, but when checked, it uses the same algorithm as Object Mask to identify an "object" that becomes the selection to be replaced.
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@ThierryH: "I had an issue with removing an intruding elbow from the border on a non-cropped image."
Generative Remove did a very good job of quickly removing the elbow from the JPEG you uploaded:
That indicates you were working with a raw to which Lens Corrections or Transform had been applied, or in less frequent cases, the Camera Raw engine had automatically cropped a border of 8 - 12 pixels around the edge. In all cases, Remove is (confusingly) looking at those hidden pixels. Temporarily disable Lens Corrections and Transform and then do the remove. See here for more details:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/
If that doesn't help, upload the original raw to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.
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@ThierryH: "Selecting a person's glasses with "Object Aware" off, I get the person without her glasses which is the purpose. However, the person eyes looks at the camera now, from an extreme angle and the eyes are weird (too big, ugly, angrilly) every time."
With your low-resolution JPEG, I got better results using Object Aware. I looked at over 50 variations, and here are some of the better ones (hard to know if they'd be acceptable on the full-resolution raw):
The Refresh button never disappeared for me, but maybe there's a difference when using raws.
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The disappearing of the Refresh was probably due to me creating snapshots to make the point. There is definitelly a difference between Raw/CR3 and JPG in the results. Even in my JPG examples, the person looks at the camera 99% of the time. Looking at the position of the head, it is not a very natural nor elegant result. I would be happy with 50%.
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@ThierryH, perhaps you could attach a full-resolution JPEG version of the photo here. With the low-res screenshot, Remove was generating a large fraction of replacements with the eyes looking forward.
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@ThierryH, using Object Aware to select the glasses and then lightening the face, here are the best 10 out of the first 33 variations (the first one was the first-generated variation) -- to my taste, they look acceptable, especially when looking at the entire photo:
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@ThierryH, The best one to my taste is this one -- I like how the man and woman are looking away from each other:
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I was trying to remove my shadow of a photo I took. It replaced it with a different looking shadow nine times.
Working on the remaining shadow, it took three more runs, each time selecting the "least" of the remaining shadow to finally remove the shadow. In other words, three on the initial shadow and three more for each remaining shadow.
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@gary_sc, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original unmodified photo. Also, are you editing a raw or a JPEG original? If a raw, which exact camera model?
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Well, that's interesting, it failed. That was send via email since when I clicked on the "Reply" button it shifted to email. Now that I see I'm here, let me try again. If you want/need the raw, let me know.
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@gary_sc, Remove with options Generative AI and Object Aware immediately removed the shadow on the first try:
This usually indicates that there are pixels along the edge that have been cropped out. Did you apply Crop, Lens Correction, or Transform, all of which can crop out pixels? If so, temporarily disable all three tools and redo the Remove.
If that doesn't help, please upload the raw to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and include the sharing link here. (The forum platform doesn't accept raws!)
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Filling empty space is something on our backlog. Thanks for the feedback.
Barry