P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

• You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
• Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
• By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
• Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
• Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
• Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 
  
  Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 

• Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
• Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

1. Denoise 
2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image)
4. Edit
5. AI Selective edits
   
   If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

[johnrellis]

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@Bazaar: "There is no way to correctly erase an object currently, even with AI, and especially when it is at the edge of the image."

Putting aside the ghost image caused by the Sky mask, your screenshot shows that not all of the selected object near the edge was removed:

This occurs when you've cropped the image. Remove looks at all of the pixels of the image, even those that have been cropped, so if your selection doesn't included the cropped-out pixels of an object, then Remove will generate a replacement that tries to match the unselected pixels.   So you have to Remove first, then Crop.  If you have a crop already applied, you have to reset the crop, do the Remove, then apply the crop again.

Note that zooming in the LR Mobile camera when you take a pic will automatically apply a crop. You can tell if a crop has been applied by looking for a dot under the Crop tool:

[matipunx]

Deben mejorar las mascaras, selecciono lo que quiero borrar (que es algo claro en un fondo liso negro) y no lo borra con totalidad solo borra una parte de todo lo que seleccione, me sigue resultando mejor ir a ps para hacer este tipo de cosas. ya que con la herramienta clonar de lr tampoco  es tan eficiente como la de ps.  dejo foto del antes y el despues. como se ve no ha borrado bien-     

[HardShadows]

Is AI replace going soft on us?  Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding that sometimes the ai replace/remove is not sharp...here's an example. raw cr2 image (in .jpg form because I'm apparntly not likeable enough for Adobe to accept my .cr2 images, it refuses to let me upload them here...), no adjustments, lens corrections, crops, etc. I included a couple of screen shots also.

[HardShadows]

here is link to download .cr2 file https://file.io/DToKkB5smAQp

[johnrellis]

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I tried to download the .cr2 but after a long wait got this error (multiple times):

Perhaps use a free account at Dropbox, Onedrive, or Google Drive?

[HardShadows]

ok, try it off my google workspace drive https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qT582PPZk6Z6-PBy4J5lG9RqxwHxGX1A/view?usp=sharing should be able to access it.

thanks ~paul

[johnrellis]

I see the same thing in that photo: the replacement has noticeably blurrier texture in the wood and sand. I went through about 25 potential variations and found a better one than most. I used a brush mask over the same area and set the mask's Sharpness to the maximum, which made a small bit of improvement. See the two attachments. To my eyes, the result is good but not great, if you're not zooming in too much.

I also found that completing the edits to my taste, with more contrast, texture, and clarity, made the blurriness much less noticeable.  See "finished.jpg".  

[HardShadows]

John, thanks for the update. That photo is just one I was using to practice ai remove/replace, so the image itself isn't a 'keeper' for me...but it did show me the 'issue' of soft replacement that I though I had noitice on some other images when using the ai tool. I assume Adobe is aware of it and will figure out a fix.  As Always, thank for your deep-dive and great info. ~paul

[johnrellis]

I don't know if the engineers are aware of the soft replacements, but there are several other reports in this thread about it (which is the point of this thread).

[amy.elise.photography]

I absolutely love this new feature as it saves me so much time. I don't have to bring every image into Photoshop anymore. However, I would like to be able to see the before and after from using Generative AI. Is there a way to do that? If so I haven't found it. 

[johnrellis]

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@amy.elise.photography: "I would like to be able to see the before and after from using Generative AI"

With the mouse, click and hold down on the eyeball icon:

If you Alt/Opt Click on the eyeball, you can permanently toggle it on and off.

[Dreamworx Med38150521z5b9]

Hi

I am having error message saying that "Generative Remove Failed" please try it later, can anyone assist me thank you.

[Ian Lyons]

Others have found that this can be caused by their computer Firewall. This video may help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsF6oTD5Q4

[MARIA JOSE38155999mz1r]

La herramienta es muy útil. Me alegra no tener que cambiar a PS cada vez que tengo que eliminar algo. Únicamente diría que, al querer eliminar algo, a veces añade objetos en vez de borrar.

[johnrellis]

@MARIA JOSE38155999mz1r: "sometimes it adds objects instead of deleting".

See this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

[Strat27712050fqyn]

Keeps replacing people with other people instead of the background

[Ian Lyons]

@Strat27712050fqyn 

See this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

[antoine1789]

Hello,

I'm using Lightroom Classic.

OK when it works it's incredible but lots of time it replace the personne or the objet instead of eraising it... I don't understand why. I try differents settings but I have the same resulte... juste replace instead of eraise.

If someone could explain to me.

Thanks in advence for your tips.

[Ian Lyons]

@antoine1789 

See this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

[Nik Onthelook]

I love this. Saves me time removing people but don't always work everytime. It is a great feature. Just like Ai in photoshop - don't always remove people/object everytime though, just replaces them but most of the time in my experience, it is great!

[Ian Lyons]

@Nik Onthelook 

See this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

[waltoncreative]

Love how it manages in most cases to fix problems that even Photoshop would struggle with.

BUT. There are a lot of times when it generates extra grain that wasn't there in the original. Maybe this is to do with working on the ENR version? It is as if the new patch uses the grain from the original image?

Oh and of course - I would love for it to be FASTER.

[johnrellis]

@waltoncreative: "There are a lot of times when it generates extra grain that wasn't there in the original. Maybe this is to do with working on the ENR version? It is as if the new patch uses the grain from the original image?"

It's not accessing the undenoised image. But there have been a number of examples here where it doesn't quite match the texture of the background replacement. Try including a much larger amount of background around the object being removed -- that often works for me to get better background matches. If that doesn't help, upload the DNG to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar, and post the sharing link here.

[HardShadows]

I have a question...my understanding was that denoise should be one of the first steps in the workflow before diving into other adjustments...is that still ture?...should denoise be used before ai replace, or visa versa now?