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Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Jan 22, 2023 3:17 PM UTC
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

This thread is now closed. Please update to LrC 14.x or LrD 8.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.



The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

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daleducatteCorrect answer
Participating Frequently
Sep 19, 2024 2:29 AM UTC

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Known Participant
Jun 13, 2024 9:07 PM UTC

Generative AI Remove in LRC mostly generates a smaller version of the item selected for removal, instead of removing it and generating a decent background without that item.

 

I've tried this multiple times and the same thing keeps happening. This needs to be improved.

Thank you.

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 13, 2024 10:51 PM UTC

@eye=art, see this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

 

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Javo Agudelo
Participant
Jun 13, 2024 8:02 PM UTC

Hola , tengo problemas al utilizar el relleno generativo y muestra error y me toca llevarlo a Photoshop y tengo actualizado el Ligtroom que puedo hacer , alguna solucion ?

Saludos .

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 13, 2024 10:44 PM UTC

@Javo Agudelo: Translation of error: "Generative Erase has failed. We have detected an issue and are unable to complete your request at this time. Try it again later."

 

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. If the problem persists, try these troubleshooting steps:

 

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot.

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Javo Agudelo
Participant
Jun 14, 2024 1:08 AM UTC

Hola .
Perfecto voy a revisar con estas opciones si mejora por que si es curioso que no de conectar a la nube y desde el celular si me deja hacer la coreccion.

 

Saludos.

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M S S
Participant
Jun 13, 2024 7:58 PM UTC

I wanted to delete a ghost hand ina portrait and it didn't work.  so what is the delete action for?

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 13, 2024 10:41 PM UTC

@M S S, what's a ghost hand?  Please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Participant
Jun 13, 2024 4:18 PM UTC

I am really liking the AI removal tool for cars and unwanted features in photographs. However the one worrisome thing is that it can also remove watermarks and thus our way and right to protect our photographic work from those that wish to steal it. 

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Rgrenader
Known Participant
Jun 13, 2024 5:02 PM UTC

Watermarking is the last step in my workflow, and it is done during the export process. The unwatermarked image is still available for future editing in Lightroom. 

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Participant
Jun 13, 2024 1:15 PM UTC

Another vote for getting the "Subtract" tool correct.  "subtract" means "take away (something) from something else so as to decrease the size, number, or amount."  Maybe "remove" is a better  word - "take (something) away or off from the position occupied.' and "eliminate or get rid of."

It does NOT mean "substitute" or "replace".

Many of us just want to remove something from our photo - a person, maybe just a stray arm that intruded on the edge of a photo, an animal that strayed into the frame, etc.  Using the tool to remove an item and then getting options to replace it with a cat, another person, etc. is frustrating.  Maybe after a few tries, you get it right, maybe not. 

 

Maybe program/teach to tool to always offer "remove" as an alternative. 

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 13, 2024 10:39 PM UTC

@jb138, see this article for how to more reliably remove objects:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/


If that doesn't help, please attach the original photo here (not an export) so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. If the forum won't let you attach it, upload it to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Participant
Jun 13, 2024 7:50 AM UTC

I have a really trick photo...the result is not 100% satifaction. 

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Jun 13, 2024 7:52 AM UTC
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Jun 13, 2024 7:53 AM UTC

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Participant
Jun 13, 2024 3:07 AM UTC

This is working very well so far.  My only critique of this tool and the remove tool on its own, is that the output is softer than the surrounding area.  Other than that, I'm very happy with the outcome.

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 13, 2024 10:06 PM UTC

@jasonb62467498: "My only critique of this tool and the remove tool on its own, is that the output is softer than the surrounding area."

 

Sometimes Remove does a better job of matching the surrounding area when you increase the boundary around the object by a fair bit, more than you might initially do.

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Inspiring
Jun 12, 2024 8:41 PM UTC

The few times that I have used have worked extremely well. Guess this will only get better with time, great feature.

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Jun 12, 2024 8:18 PM UTC

  

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Participant
Jun 12, 2024 8:17 PM UTC

Ne fonctionne plus depuis votre "amélioration"...réinstallé 2 fois lightrom pour rien.L'aide sur le site inneficace.Message d'erreur qui n'a pas de sens,je suis évidement branché,puisque je vous écrit..

  

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Participant
Jun 16, 2024 4:20 PM UTC

Here is the solution for now: https://youtu.be/JDsF6oTD5Q4?si=M1-bBoPMI6B-QLzB

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johnrellis
Legend
Jun 16, 2024 7:31 PM UTC

Thanks for posting that. So others can figure out quickly whether that video applies to them, it shows how to adjust the rules of the Windows Defender Firewall to stop blocking LR's networking requests. This won't help those whose LR is getting blocked by third-party security packages (anti-malware / anti-virus) or network routers.

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