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February 16, 2018
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P: Sync/copying a Local Adjust/Spot/Crop results in wrong size and position

  • February 16, 2018
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[See here for a bug recipe for LR 10.2 that occurs with any in-camera rotated raw:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-synchronization-of-the-radial-filter-from-hdr-dng-to-raw-wrong-position-and-size/5f5f46214b561a3d42751770?commentId=607dd655c9914b71482fc956 -JRE]

 

1. Combine a sequence of 5 shots obtaining a DNG HDR with automatic alignment and low movement removal
2. Apply a radial filter to the DNG
3. Synchronize the DNG settings to apply them to the 5 original RAW shots
4. The radial filter on the RAW is of a different size and position than the original DNG from which it was synchronized

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    miky_tricky
    Participating Frequently
    February 13, 2023

    This happens when I'm working on a series of pictures I edit for a e-commerce website. After pasting the same settings to a few pictures (I paste the settings one by one not in a batch) the radial masks change shape (the eliptical shape got squeezed) and rotate (from a vertical orientation it rotates to about 45°). Does this happens to anyone else? The workflow has been the same for 5+ years and it didn't happen before. It doesn't happen all the times but I'd rather say randomly, sometimes it seems that it rotates the mask a little on each photo until it gets so much that it is clear something happened.

    SPECS: I'm on a MacBook Pro 15" 2014, 16gb ram, Mac Os Big Sur 11.7.3, Lightroom v. 12.1. Find  attached 2 pictures of the right mask vs. the wrongly pasted mask.  

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    February 14, 2023

    "After pasting the same settings to a few pictures (I paste the settings one by one not in a batch) the radial masks change shape (the eliptical shape got squeezed) and rotate (from a vertical orientation it rotates to about 45°)."

     

    I've never seen those symptoms reported before, where the angle of the radial mask gets changed to something other than 0.  The other symptoms reported in this thread and others arise when you copy local adjustments between photos with different orientations (e.g. from a photo rotated 90 degrees in-camera to a version of that photo that has been edited in Photoshop).

     

    As a first troubleshooting step, try resetting LR's preferences:
    https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/


    LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.

     

     

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    May 7, 2021

    A copied/synced graduated filter will appear in the wrong location on a target photo if the photo has been rotated but hasn't had that rotation saved to the photo's metadata on disk.  The workaround is to select the target photos and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File before copy/syncing the graduated filter.

    To reproduce:

    1. Uncheck Catalog Settings > Metadata > Automatically Write Changes To XMP.

    2. Import three photos, one unrotated, one rotated in-camera (i.e. with EXIF:Orientation set to something other than Horizontal), one unrotated.

    3. Rotate the third photo:

    4. Apply a graduated filter to the first photo and copy/sync to the other two. Observe that the filter is in the wrong location on the third photo (its catalog-only rotation has been ignored):

    5. Select the second and third photos and do Quick Develop > Reset All.

    6. Select the third photo, do Metadata > Save Metadata To File.

    7. Copy/sync the  graduated filter from first photo to the other photos. Observe that the filter now appears in the correct location on the second and third photos:

    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    May 7, 2021

    This thread is being merged into an existing authoritative thread for better tracking and response. Please review the official answer (if any) in the second post on the thread for more information. 

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
    JohanElzenga
    Community Expert
    JohanElzengaCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 7, 2021

    Was one of the photos rotated, perhaps? I do not see this with ‘normal’ photos.

    -- Johan W. Elzenga
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    Yves-CH
    Inspiring
    May 7, 2021

    Bonjour, je viens de tester sur macOS 11.3.1 et LrC 10.2 sans enregistrement des .xmp, et bien tout fonctionne correctement !

    Yves Crausaz, Suisse, retraité actif dans le monde de la photo et des arts graphiques.
    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    May 7, 2021

    Try this workaround: Before pasting the settings, select the target photos and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Does that work?

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    tombland5579
    Participating Frequently
    May 7, 2021

    When I attempt to copy/paste a graduated filter from one photograph to another, the graduated filter I paste is at a 90 degree angle to how it should be. Imagine a graduated filter used to bring down the exposure on a sky – so the filter is coming down from the top. If I paste that graduated filter onto a different photograph, it will be coming in from one side rather the from the top of the photograph. Is anyone else experiencing this?

    I am using an iMac Pro running macOS Catalina 10.15.7.

    Rikk Flohr_Photography
    Community Manager
    Rikk Flohr_PhotographyCommunity Manager
    May 6, 2021

    This thread is being merged into an existing authoritative thread for better tracking and response. Please review the official answer (if any) in the second post on the thread for more information. 

    Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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    mrg-design
    Participating Frequently
    May 6, 2021

    Operating system: Windows 10 - Lightroom Classic 10.2

     

    Copy or sync crop, spot removal and local adjustments develop settings causes wrong results for portrait photos which were rotated in Lightroom.

    I had reported the problem more than half a year ago, but it was marked as "Solved", although the bug still exists in the current Lightroom Classic 10.2 version.

     

    Here is a video showing the bugs:

     

     

    The video shows several unexpected results.
    1) Lightroom write metadata (e.g. rotation) into the original JPG, although it is explicitly disabled it in the catalog settings.
    2) Crop, spot removal and local adjustments are wrong after copy or sync the develop settings if the photo is rotated in Lightroom.
    3) If the photo is not rotated in Lightroom (use written rotate metadata by import), then copy or sync crop and local adjustments develop settings are correct, but the spot removal is still wrong.

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
    Legend
    April 19, 2021

    See also this thread:

    https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/lightroom-classic/lightroom-classic-local-adjustments-and-crops-dont-copy-or-work-in-presets-applied-to-rotated-photos/5f5f45bb4b561a3d425c83ec 

    I don't think they should be merged, because that thread is about more than just radial filters.

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