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Photo Mechanic Crop not transferred to LR Classic

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September 13, 2022
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Good morning!

I use Photo Mechanic (PM) to cull my (mostly sports) images before importing them to Lightroom Classic. I recently read that crops applied in PM should carry over, non-destructively, when imported into LR. When I try this, both with drag-and-drop and "edit in..." the crops are not carried over. I'm on an M1 Mac mini running the latest versions of both PM (6.0, build 6496) and LR (11.5, current build). The files are raw Nikon (NEF) files. Has anyone else come across this problem? Thanks!

FYI... I did read through the Windows-related threads from 2021 and they suggested that a bug had been fixed; at least for Windows.

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GoldingD

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Library Path: /Volumes/sz_photo_vault/Lightroom/Lightroom SZ Master Catalog.lrcat

Is thst photo_vault a actual phisical hard drive, or a memory stick, or a cloud share?

sergejz5979380Author

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Good morning! It's an external Samsung T5 SSD drive (USB-C) that holds both my catalog and photos. Not quite as fast as keeping the catalog local but it makes switching to/from my laptop during travel more convenient.

sergejz5979380Author

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The mystery was solved (see thread above) but I wanted to thank you for your time and advice. Much appreciated!

GoldingD

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Please post your System Information as Lightroom Classic (LrC) reports it. In LrC click on Help, then System Info, then Copy. Paste that information into a reply. Please present all information from first line down to and including Plug-in Info. Info after Plug-in info can be cut as that is just so much dead space to us non-Techs.

example

sergejz5979380Author

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Here you go....

Lightroom Classic version: 11.5 [ 202208080927-8a575c91 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en-US
Operating system: Mac OS 12
Version: 12.5.1 [21G83]
Application architecture: arm64
Logical processor count: 8
Processor speed: NA
SqLite Version: 3.36.0
Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 258.8 MB (1.5%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 409,067.7 MB
Memory cache size: 0.0MB
Internal Camera Raw version: 14.5 [ 1177 ]
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5
Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2
Camera Raw virtual memory: 69MB / 8191MB (0%)
Camera Raw real memory: 71MB / 16384MB (0%)
Displays: 1) 5120x2880

Graphics Processor Info:
Metal: Apple M1

Init State: 5
User Preference: 1

Application folder: /Applications/Adobe Lightroom Classic
Library Path: /Volumes/sz_photo_vault/Lightroom/Lightroom SZ Master Catalog.lrcat
Settings Folder: /Users/sergej/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Lightroom

Installed Plugins:
1) AdobeStock
2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in
3) ColorChecker Camera Calibration
4) Epson Print Layout
5) Facebook
6) Flickr
7) jf Bulk Develop
😎 Nikon Tether Plugin
9) SmugMug

Config.lua flags: None

GoldingD

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Please double check, that you ate actually running LrC v11.5. Do you perhaps have more than one copy installed?

Looking back, this PM crop issue occurred in LrC v10.2, perhaps 10.3, and got fixed.

ref: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/photo-mechanic-crops-not-coming-into-lrc/m-p/12102583

sergejz5979380Author

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Confirmed. Only one version, the most current, exists on my computer.

DdeGannes

Community Expert

I would ensure the nef raw images and the relevant sidecar are in a folder on your system. Use import "add" select the folder with the raw and sidecar files.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

sergejz5979380Author

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Thanks for suggestion! I can confirm that the images and their related XMP side cares were together.

After some more testing I found that if I import the images into LR, select them in the library module and run the Read Metadata from File command on them from the menu bar or contextual menu, then the crop defined in PM is applied. In other words it seems that LR does not fully appy the settings from the XMP file on import. Interestingly, other items from the XMP (e.g. captions, color labels, creator info, etc.) are applied on import normally. Only the crop requires the extra step. It seems like a bug but at least I can manually apply my PM crops as needed.

Finally, the above only works if "Automatically write changes into the XMP" is OFF in LR's catalog settings. If it's on, then the uncropped state is baked into the XMP on import and the the crop info is no longer there to be read in manually.

johnrellis

Legend

Please attach here a sample .nef and .xmp that haven't yet been imported into LR. With that, we can file an actionable bug report with reproducible steps.

sergejz5979380Author

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Some additional information... If I take an image from PM to Photoshop, instead of LR, I get the expected result. The crop is carried over into Cameral Raw and can be modified if needed before opening in PS. I guess that suggests the issue is with LR and not PM.

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